MtnMan wrote:As for the noise and blast of the Alfa, hearing/eye protection is a given while plinking etc but is it that bad as to be unusable without hearing or eye protection as would be encountered in an unexpected shot opportunity in a hunting situation?
johnboy357 wrote:Hand loading for a .357 is going to be your first issue with very little or no suitable powder available. No AP100 or AP70 - you might be lucky and manage to find a tin of AR2205 or may be some 2400. if you do find something then most reloading manuals have suitable loads for the 357 mag. For projectiles I would suggest you go with any of the name brand 158 JHP's for hunting anything other than very thin skinned game as penetration is the name of the game with pigs,goats, small deer etc.
Suggest you buy a box or two of factory 158grain JHP's just to give you some idea of muzzle blast and side blast from the barrel / cylinder gap. As for a plinking load you will find the same problem with powder availability - there is none. Maybe try a box of factory .38 specials.
Overall not a good time to be buying anything in a pistol calibre
InisBineest wrote:johnboy357 wrote:Hand loading for a .357 is going to be your first issue with very little or no suitable powder available. No AP100 or AP70 - you might be lucky and manage to find a tin of AR2205 or may be some 2400. if you do find something then most reloading manuals have suitable loads for the 357 mag. For projectiles I would suggest you go with any of the name brand 158 JHP's for hunting anything other than very thin skinned game as penetration is the name of the game with pigs,goats, small deer etc.
Suggest you buy a box or two of factory 158grain JHP's just to give you some idea of muzzle blast and side blast from the barrel / cylinder gap. As for a plinking load you will find the same problem with powder availability - there is none. Maybe try a box of factory .38 specials.
Overall not a good time to be buying anything in a pistol calibre
Second that, that's why I got rid of mine earlier:(
Bought a 300blk and how 2205 is going the way of dodo as well:(
bladeracer wrote:InisBineest wrote:johnboy357 wrote:Hand loading for a .357 is going to be your first issue with very little or no suitable powder available. No AP100 or AP70 - you might be lucky and manage to find a tin of AR2205 or may be some 2400. if you do find something then most reloading manuals have suitable loads for the 357 mag. For projectiles I would suggest you go with any of the name brand 158 JHP's for hunting anything other than very thin skinned game as penetration is the name of the game with pigs,goats, small deer etc.
Suggest you buy a box or two of factory 158grain JHP's just to give you some idea of muzzle blast and side blast from the barrel / cylinder gap. As for a plinking load you will find the same problem with powder availability - there is none. Maybe try a box of factory .38 specials.
Overall not a good time to be buying anything in a pistol calibre
Second that, that's why I got rid of mine earlier:(
Bought a 300blk and how 2205 is going the way of dodo as well:(
I've seen AR2207/H4198 load data for BLK with heavier bullets, might be more readily available than AR2205.
bladeracer wrote:ADI are having some sort of glitch in their production of the fastest powders. As this seems to have happened as they were switching their AP and AS ranges into combined APS powders, it's probably less a problem of getting it work and more a problem of getting it to work consistently in both, very small volume pistol barrels and very large volume shotgun barrels. I believe they actually produced some batches but discovered a problem and had to scrap tons of it?
Would've been nice if they just went back to the old AP/AS formula that worked so well for years, but I guess then covid hit and they've been flat-out just keeping up with rifle demand. Hopefully the dearth in primers will give them the break they need to get the powder lines sorted out.
Rwd22 wrote:bladeracer wrote:ADI are having some sort of glitch in their production of the fastest powders. As this seems to have happened as they were switching their AP and AS ranges into combined APS powders, it's probably less a problem of getting it work and more a problem of getting it to work consistently in both, very small volume pistol barrels and very large volume shotgun barrels. I believe they actually produced some batches but discovered a problem and had to scrap tons of it?
Would've been nice if they just went back to the old AP/AS formula that worked so well for years, but I guess then covid hit and they've been flat-out just keeping up with rifle demand. Hopefully the dearth in primers will give them the break they need to get the powder lines sorted out.
From memory 2205 is potentially in production in 2022. I think given the demand for the staple powders (2206h, 2208, 2209 etc) They cut back on making the less-frequent powders (2205, 2219, BM1 etc) I guess to keep up with demand on the others.
The APS situation is a bit of a bugger as I do alot of pistol shooting, speaking to a bloke with a background in pyrotechnics, the major issue is the environmental factor associated with producing it in the new facility, I think he mentioned they used a sort of water-conveyor system to transport it throughout the place and when the batch can't sufficiently dry with a good result, it ends up being scrapped.
Do that batch after batch and the costs would rack up. Given the run of weather events down south in the last 12 odd months, humidity effecting the batches, they probably got tired of fertilising the front garden of the factory.
boingk wrote:Sounds like an utterly stupid production method if it yeilds no usable product. Whatever the issue is I hope they sort it out soon.
Back on track, have you considered something like the 16.5 or 18" Rossi lever rifles? I know its not a revolving carbine but its probably a far more practical firearm overall. I'm pretty happy with my Citadel Levtac 92... basically a tacticool Winchester 1892.
Very short overall length, short barrel but still usable, and you won't have to worry about the muzzle blast or cylinder gap.
mickb wrote:I had circuit judge in 45 colt once and an alfa prof in 22LR. The handgun cartridge in a revolver carbine was a bit too much for me noise wise. Unlike a handgun which is normally arms length you have that cylinder gap nearer the ears.