270 longer range work

Calibres, cartridges, ballistics tables and ammunition information.

270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 16 Feb 2022, 4:53 pm

hey fellas , has anyone played with the 270 winchester shooting 130's or 140's waaay out ? well, 350-400 is way out for me ;) any opinions on this ?
i'm looking at building a 270 up on a vangaurd action . going to set it up in a nice pillared-bedded timber howa sporter stock , or a B&C stock . i've had great results with tikkas in B&C stocks
i'll try the standard barrel , but i'd like a #3 or #4 barrel profile with flutes , swan or madco probably. any advice or opinions would be appreciated .

i love building up rifles ! :lol:

:drinks: :drinks: :thumbsup:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bladeracer » 16 Feb 2022, 4:55 pm

I guess the first thing to do is find out if there's a suitable bullet available. Is it for hunting or smacking paper and steel?

Hornady ELDM's should be available and shoot shoot well at longer distances.
Practice Strict Gun Control - Precision Counts!
User avatar
bladeracer
Field Marshal
Field Marshal
 
Posts: 12680
Victoria

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by deye243 » 16 Feb 2022, 5:55 pm

No eldm's in 270 Cal think burger would be your only choice but for short range like that rich I wouldn't bother with a that type of Bullet would just go for the Sierra game Kings spitzer boat tail.
I would just bump it up a smidgen and do a 280 it's nothing more than a 7 mm 3006 or a 7 mm 270 bullet choice far better than a 270win.
And cost wise I think the 270 Cal and 7 mm bullet price would be nearly identical
User avatar
deye243
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
 
Posts: 2243
Victoria

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 16 Feb 2022, 7:18 pm

bladeracer wrote:I guess the first thing to do is find out if there's a suitable bullet available. Is it for hunting or smacking paper and steel?

Hornady ELDM's should be available and shoot shoot well at longer distances.


i'm setting up as a game rifle , probably use 130 nosler bt's for projectiles . really flat shooting . 25-06 100 gn trajectory according to chuck hawks ballistic chart . good for lighter stuff way out . foxes , goats , ect . change the load and it's good closer in for heavier game . at least that's my theory . besides all that , i live in QLD and i'm doing a "like for like" deal on another 270 that was disappointing . no pta to wait for :D . already have dies and brass . that's why i'm not doing a 280 rem dye243 . a wider selection of 7mm projectiles i know , but i'm set up for 270 win and 130's have really good ballistics . 130 partition's were jack o'connor's favorite load for smacking down stuff down way out .just thought i would give it a go :unknown:

:drinks: :drinks: :thumbsup:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by Bill » 16 Feb 2022, 7:29 pm

Nosler make a nice and handy 150gr Long range Accubond, I'm running a 150gr BT at 3100fps atm but I'll be changing over to a the LR Accubond next. Not a cheap pill

140gr Berger VLD Hunter would be my pic but currently unavailable

https://www.nosler.com/270-win-150gr-ac ... ition.html
When a guy is digging his own grave, you don’t fight him for the shovel.

Success leaves clues, Fools follow failure !

20 Hornet, 218 Bee, 222 Rem, 256 WM, 6mm ARC, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5x55 Scan, 270 Win, 357 Mag, 358 Win, 9.3x62, 500 A Square
User avatar
Bill
Warrant Officer C1
Warrant Officer C1
 
Posts: 1253
New South Wales

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by deye243 » 16 Feb 2022, 7:35 pm

bigrich wrote:
bladeracer wrote:I guess the first thing to do is find out if there's a suitable bullet available. Is it for hunting or smacking paper and steel?

Hornady ELDM's should be available and shoot shoot well at longer distances.

already have dies and brass . that's why i'm not doing a 280 rem dye243 . a wider selection of 7mm projectiles i know , but i'm set up for 270 win and 130's have really good ballistics .

:drinks: :drinks: :thumbsup:

The reason I stuck with another 260 i still had competition loading dies cost a fortune had heaps of cases and projectiles to start off with .
just be careful with the accubond long-range projectile as they are very long for Calibre and generally need a quicker Twist in the heavier pill.
That and they are very soft in the jacket if you stumble across something at 30 to 50 yards and Let Rip better be a soft spot if it is a stout animal like a scrub Bull or whatever being up in Queensland .
User avatar
deye243
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
 
Posts: 2243
Victoria

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by Blr243 » 16 Feb 2022, 8:45 pm

My newest edition is a 270 purchased because I was seeking a flat shooter , and even though a fast 130 from a 270 is goin to shoot flatter than a 308 , I wanted to take it further to really gain a worthwhile flat shooting advantage so I’m useing Tnt speers at 90 grains and they absolutely hoot along . Cheap and usually in stock at rebels ... Speer make the same pill in 100 grains as well
Blr243
Brigadier
Brigadier
 
Posts: 4491
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 16 Feb 2022, 8:47 pm

Bill wrote:Nosler make a nice and handy 150gr Long range Accubond, I'm running a 150gr BT at 3100fps atm but I'll be changing over to a the LR Accubond next. Not a cheap pill

140gr Berger VLD Hunter would be my pic but currently unavailable

https://www.nosler.com/270-win-150gr-ac ... ition.html


There’s a lot more good projectiles for 270 these days. I don’t want to go heavy unless the game calls for it . A 130gn projectile used for the type of shooting you would do with a 25-06 . Open grazing, agriculture country, ridge country goat popping. And besides, I need a reason for another rifle .... :lol:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by Blr243 » 16 Feb 2022, 8:48 pm

Even though they are travelling roughly 3550 FPS recoil is bugger all , no flinching goin on here
Blr243
Brigadier
Brigadier
 
Posts: 4491
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by Blr243 » 16 Feb 2022, 8:48 pm

And it’s just a lightweight sauer sporter barrel
Blr243
Brigadier
Brigadier
 
Posts: 4491
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 16 Feb 2022, 8:50 pm

Blr243 wrote:My newest edition is a 270 purchased because I was seeking a flat shooter , and even though a fast 130 from a 270 is goin to shoot flatter than a 308 , I wanted to take it further to really gain a worthwhile flat shooting advantage so I’m useing Tnt speers at 90 grains and they absolutely hoot along . Cheap and usually in stock at rebels ... Speer make the same pill in 100 grains as well


Thanks for the heads up and advice mate. The 270 has more punch at distance than a 243 as well. But shoots as flat, or if not flatter further out
:thumbsup:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 16 Feb 2022, 8:52 pm

Blr243 wrote:And it’s just a lightweight sauer sporter barrel


I’m gunna see how the factory weatherby barrel goes . A heavier fluted barrel could be on the cards ;)
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 16 Feb 2022, 8:56 pm

deye243 wrote:
bigrich wrote:
bladeracer wrote:I guess the first thing to do is find out if there's a suitable bullet available. Is it for hunting or smacking paper and steel?

Hornady ELDM's should be available and shoot shoot well at longer distances.

already have dies and brass . that's why i'm not doing a 280 rem dye243 . a wider selection of 7mm projectiles i know , but i'm set up for 270 win and 130's have really good ballistics .

:drinks: :drinks: :thumbsup:

The reason I stuck with another 260 i still had competition loading dies cost a fortune had heaps of cases and projectiles to start off with .
just be careful with the accubond long-range projectile as they are very long for Calibre and generally need a quicker Twist in the heavier pill.
That and they are very soft in the jacket if you stumble across something at 30 to 50 yards and Let Rip better be a soft spot if it is a stout animal like a scrub Bull or whatever being up in Queensland .


I’m mainly looking at lighter 130gn bt’s and intending to use it like a 25-06. I also have a 7-08 for closer range work, and a 30-06 being built like a old English stalking rifle. I got all bases covered..... :lol:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 16 Feb 2022, 8:59 pm

Blr243 wrote:And it’s just a lightweight sauer sporter barrel


I had one in 223, well put together rifle, as you would expect from the Germans. But mine was not a reliable feeder in the short 223 caliber
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by deye243 » 16 Feb 2022, 9:18 pm

Pity you were not doing it on a Remington action I have a brand new 270 barrel here unfired
User avatar
deye243
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
 
Posts: 2243
Victoria

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bladeracer » 16 Feb 2022, 9:45 pm

Hornady 145gn ELDX has a nice BC of .536. SST and Interbond 130gn are .460.

Berger do a 170gn EOL with BC .662, but it's a 1.490" bullet so 9"-twist.

The Accubond LR 150gn has BC .591 but is 1.390" so 10"-twist.

Whether you can get the Berger or Nosler seems unlikely though. I'd be trying the ELDX for long-range.
Practice Strict Gun Control - Precision Counts!
User avatar
bladeracer
Field Marshal
Field Marshal
 
Posts: 12680
Victoria

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by Bill » 16 Feb 2022, 10:09 pm

Accubonds are available not so with Bergers, ELDX's would be worth a crack
When a guy is digging his own grave, you don’t fight him for the shovel.

Success leaves clues, Fools follow failure !

20 Hornet, 218 Bee, 222 Rem, 256 WM, 6mm ARC, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5x55 Scan, 270 Win, 357 Mag, 358 Win, 9.3x62, 500 A Square
User avatar
Bill
Warrant Officer C1
Warrant Officer C1
 
Posts: 1253
New South Wales

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 17 Feb 2022, 7:04 am

thanks very much for the advice , especially about projectiles blade and bill . right or wrong, after talking to , and reading about 25-06 users , i'm thinking a 270 win could be used in the same manner . when you check the ballistic co-efficients , 270 hornady 130sst - 460, 270 nosler 130 bt -433, their not bad . better than most projectiles used in a 25-06 which is a very flat ,accurate long range hunting caliber
i've looked at trajectory data on chuck hawks and nathan foster's websites , 243 with 95's , 25-06 with 100's and 270 win with 130's all shoot real flat, with those weights being the "sweet spot" for flatest shooting . i know there's flatter shooting calibers than 270 , but i already am set up for it and the 270 is less overbore than the 25-06 , 243 , 257 weatherby or 7 rem mag , ect.

BLR , keep the feedback coming on your lighter 270 loads . how's accuracy out of your sauer sporter at distance ?
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 17 Feb 2022, 7:18 am

deye243 wrote:Pity you were not doing it on a Remington action I have a brand new 270 barrel here unfired


i had considered build a rem 700 , there's a early 270 BDL for $1150 on ozgunsales . i rang about it , it had chamber rust and throat erosion , but the early 700's still command a premium .but then i've got to rebarrel , pillar bed ,ect, as well as getting the sako extractor . the occassional story of the soldered on bolt handle and trigger issues don't instill confidence . i know the 700 can be extremely accurate, but the vangaurd is solid engineered, ( if a little heavy ) and employs some of the best features of the win model 70 and rem 700 . as well as the sako 595 , according to some yanks. new 270 vangaurd $900 from my local shop , B&C stock for $590 from the big C and i'm good to go :D no waiting 6 months for a smith or barrel maker to do work . :roll:

:drinks: :drinks: :thumbsup:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by Blr243 » 17 Feb 2022, 4:31 pm

Too b true full , I’m not much of a marksman , + have a problem with my trigger on my 270 at the moment, so long range results ar a bit far away atm sorry bro , And work is stupidly busy , I got dingoes to shoot only 100 k from home and I just can’t find time to get there. Sad situation
Blr243
Brigadier
Brigadier
 
Posts: 4491
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by Blr243 » 17 Feb 2022, 4:37 pm

Too b true full , I’m not much of a marksman , + have a problem with my trigger on my 270 at the moment, so long range results ar a bit far away atm sorry bro , And work is stupidly busy , I got dingoes to shoot only 100 k from home and I just can’t find time to get there. Sad situation
Blr243
Brigadier
Brigadier
 
Posts: 4491
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 17 Feb 2022, 7:36 pm

Blr243 wrote:Too b true full , I’m not much of a marksman , + have a problem with my trigger on my 270 at the moment, so long range results ar a bit far away atm sorry bro , And work is stupidly busy , I got dingoes to shoot only 100 k from home and I just can’t find time to get there. Sad situation


sorry to hear that mate . sometimes life and these bloody rifles test our patience ..... :(
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by JimTom » 17 Feb 2022, 8:52 pm

No doubt I will get shouted down for suggesting this, but, have a look at the 6.8 Western compared to the 270.
Standing by for incoming.
User avatar
JimTom
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
 
Posts: 2130
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 17 Feb 2022, 9:35 pm

JimTom wrote:No doubt I will get shouted down for suggesting this, but, have a look at the 6.8 Western compared to the 270.
Standing by for incoming.


ballistically it's not a bad thing . however , it doesn't fit the criteria i'm looking for . flat shooting,light recoiling, for smaller medium game like goats and under at distance . the ole 270/30-06 case feeds smooth. i dunno bout those short, fat WSM cases :P

:drinks: :drinks: :thumbsup:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by wrenchman » 18 Feb 2022, 11:36 am

i like the 270 and the 3006 i have been hunting with the 270 for the last few years.
gun calibers every one has a favorite one i say go with what works for you
wrenchman
Warrant Officer C1
Warrant Officer C1
 
Posts: 1347
United States of America

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 23 Feb 2022, 7:06 pm

just a update on this project/scheme , rather than go around building something up for this longer range 270 thing ( i'm so over waiting on gunsmiths ) , i got a good deal on a stainless T3x tikka varmit 24" barrel . it'll probably end up in a B&C M40 type stock instead of the plastic factory one . anyone played with a tikka varmit ?

:drinks: :drinks: :thumbsup:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by Blr243 » 23 Feb 2022, 8:32 pm

Shooters delight were very helpful in tracking down and ordering me a new trigger for my sauer 270 recently. I bought a bulk lot of 90 grain spears. So I’m good to go for a bit. Rebel’s had some very non aerodynamic looking 150 grain round nose smellier bellot pills cheap so I grabbed a pack of them to so I’ll be ready to take on a mammoth boar if one shows up ....
Blr243
Brigadier
Brigadier
 
Posts: 4491
Queensland

Re: 270 longer range work

Post by bigrich » 23 Feb 2022, 8:38 pm

Blr243 wrote:Shooters delight were very helpful in tracking down and ordering me a new trigger for my sauer 270 recently. I bought a bulk lot of 90 grain spears. So I’m good to go for a bit. Rebel’s had some very non aerodynamic looking 150 grain round nose smellier bellot pills cheap so I grabbed a pack of them to so I’ll be ready to take on a mammoth boar if one shows up ....


apparently hornady 150 sst's are a very good projectile for light and heavy game . i have a few . let us know how you go shooting the 90 speers . 130's are about where i want to be . but hornady does make some 110sst i think :thumbsup:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4505
Queensland


Back to top
 
Return to Calibres, cartridges and ballistics