pagun wrote:https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101987030
pagun wrote:Im just thinking: first they track it more then they limit it..
S O K A R wrote:pagun wrote:Im just thinking: first they track it more then they limit it..
Well they already track who gets what anyway, from my understanding all that article was suggesting was that dealers had a way to check that a licence was valid and hadn't been cancelled for whatever reason.
There is nothing wrong with that, infact I would welcome that.
Not sure about your state, but here in tas we do have limitations.
You're only allowed to possess up to a 12 months supply of ammo.
Obviously that amount is dependent on how active you are as a shooter and what you do with it.
But I purchase a few thousand rounds at a time when I buy ammo, never had any issues.
I think you're worrying over nothing.
rc42 wrote:If a license is cancelled in any state the shooter has a responsibility to surrender their license card and either surrender or find a licensed person to take possession of their firearms and ammunition. Whatever they do it's the responsibility of police to follow up and confirm that they no longer have possession of any of the above...........
S O K A R wrote:pagun wrote:Im just thinking: first they track it more then they limit it..
Well they already track who gets what anyway, from my understanding all that article was suggesting was that dealers had a way to check that a licence was valid and hadn't been cancelled for whatever reason.
There is nothing wrong with that, infact I would welcome that.
Not sure about your state, but here in tas we do have limitations.
You're only allowed to possess up to a 12 months supply of ammo.
Obviously that amount is dependent on how active you are as a shooter and what you do with it.
But I purchase a few thousand rounds at a time when I buy ammo, never had any issues.
I think you're worrying over nothing.
pagun wrote:
"I think your worrying over nothing" see how well that post ages..
I pay cash. They dont track it
S O K A R wrote:pagun wrote:
"I think your worrying over nothing" see how well that post ages..
I pay cash. They dont track it
I'm curious, what is so "scary" about wanting to add an extra security feature to prevent those who are no longer legally licensed from buying ammunition?
Does it hinder a licensed owner from purchasing ammunition? No it doesn't.
Could potentially save lives.
Considering dealers are required by law to record ammunition sales & pass that onto licensing after a designated period of time, regardless of whether you pay cash or card its being recorded/tracked.
Its really not a big deal unless you have something to hide/up to shady s**t.
deye243 wrote:S O K A R wrote:pagun wrote:Im just thinking: first they track it more then they limit it..
Well they already track who gets what anyway, from my understanding all that article was suggesting was that dealers had a way to check that a licence was valid and hadn't been cancelled for whatever reason.
There is nothing wrong with that, infact I would welcome that.
Not sure about your state, but here in tas we do have limitations.
You're only allowed to possess up to a 12 months supply of ammo.
Obviously that amount is dependent on how active you are as a shooter and what you do with it.
But I purchase a few thousand rounds at a time when I buy ammo, never had any issues.
I think you're worrying over nothing.
Well here in Victoria you get done with a AVO or lose your shooters licence for any reason whatsoever and every local dealer within whatever range has a fax by the following morning with your licence photo on it saying that you are disqualified
rc42 wrote:Saw a news article today that stated the Russia/Ukraine war has put so much demand on ammunition that even if all fighting stopped today and current global production facilities ran at full capacity it would take them around 15 years to replenish all stockpiles.
Somehow I think shortages and soaring prices are the new normal for ammunition and reloading components.
As an example, I thought small pistol primers were pricey at $90 per 1000, they disappeared from stores and came back a couple of months later at $140, those sold out and now, another few months later, they are back at $200. I dread to think what the pricing will be like on the next shipment but the sad part is that factory ammo prices are increasing so fast that it's still cheaper to reload, as long as you have powder.
geoff wrote:rc42 wrote:Saw a news article today that stated the Russia/Ukraine war has put so much demand on ammunition that even if all fighting stopped today and current global production facilities ran at full capacity it would take them around 15 years to replenish all stockpiles.
Somehow I think shortages and soaring prices are the new normal for ammunition and reloading components.
As an example, I thought small pistol primers were pricey at $90 per 1000, they disappeared from stores and came back a couple of months later at $140, those sold out and now, another few months later, they are back at $200. I dread to think what the pricing will be like on the next shipment but the sad part is that factory ammo prices are increasing so fast that it's still cheaper to reload, as long as you have powder.
Oldbloke wrote:Well, that's interesting. Didn't know that. Would likely be workable too. And very easy.
Spoke to one of wife's aunties last week. Her husband died about six months ago. Two days after his death local cop knocked on the door asking about his firearms. Turns out he was helpfull and assisted in arranging transfers to grandson who had only a few weeks before applied for his license. Storage was now substandard due to changes but allowed them to remain there during the process. So, he was understanding and excellent to deal with. But two days was quick and obviously a red flag was raised the moment his death was registered by the Dr.
pagun wrote:Im law abiding. I dont wamt guns and ammo in the hands of unlicensed.
All im sayin is i think this will lead to ammo limits like they want in NT and eventually youll get given alotted jack s**t rounds a year.enjoy yr "few thousand" while u can. We can agree to disagree
geoff wrote:Milspec ammo isn't really used by the average shooter
SCJ429 wrote:geoff wrote:Milspec ammo isn't really used by the average shooter
Are you saying that Milspec ammo quality is so rubbish that the average shooter would reject it?
Or that an increase in demand for ammo by the military should not affect major companies production of components such as primers and projectiles?
Unfortunately increases in demand from anywhere will affect the amount of components available to you and me. Look at everytime someone talks about gun reform in the US and people there start buying up big in case it happens. We suffer the most out here and cannot get our hands on anything.
bladeracer wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Well, that's interesting. Didn't know that. Would likely be workable too. And very easy.
Spoke to one of wife's aunties last week. Her husband died about six months ago. Two days after his death local cop knocked on the door asking about his firearms. Turns out he was helpfull and assisted in arranging transfers to grandson who had only a few weeks before applied for his license. Storage was now substandard due to changes but allowed them to remain there during the process. So, he was understanding and excellent to deal with. But two days was quick and obviously a red flag was raised the moment his death was registered by the Dr.
I bought a Lithgow Model 1B from a family friend after her husband died. But she still had it about eighteen months later and nobody had been out to hassle her about it. Maybe the type of firearms held is also an issue?
When Rose's dad died it took some months to sort the estate to a point where I was able to have his rifle transferred to me, but we didn't get anybody chasing us up about it. Perhaps a message goes to the local DFO and he makes a decision about the importance of following it up? He knows these people so he can probably made an educated decision about whether these firearms are a risk to the community.
Barbarian wrote:IDK what its like in other states but the Stazi here in WA are handed a report from the coroner's office at the end of each day and that is immediately run against firearms license holders. In the Metro area the coppers can be on your doorstep at 2am, it'll probably be a little later if you live rural but my understanding is that its actioned immediately.
I know through talking to other WAAS members that we've had a few spouses caught unawares.
Thankfully if you co-license everything and you know your health is going down hill, its as simple as sending an email to WApol about transferring primary ownership to the co-licensee, no fee and as long as that email has been sent before TOD its fine.