.204 vs .223?

[happyhunter]

These calibre comparison threads also seem to 'get the juices flowing'.

Everyone has to argue they made the right choice to protect their ego

And to think all this time I mistakenly believed the .204 was a small game calibre!
Wonder if they do it in a double rifle for my next trip to the continent?
........

It's all good fun......kinda?

It is a small game cartridge.. it's just bigfella likes to blow on his big ego.
<insert credibility assuring dead animal that's been uploaded to death here..>

I like to use my .177 air rifle to shoot buffalo, but you have to hit them in the eyeball with a poison dart to ensure a humane kill.

[MR. WINCHESTER]

These calibre comparison threads also seem to 'get the juices flowing'.

Everyone has to argue they made the right choice to protect their ego

it's just bigfella likes to blow on his big ego.

Gotta love 'confidence' in ones' own opinions / principles.

[happyhunter]

Opinions are like Holden Commodores

[bigfellascott]

Yawn - Do you even hunt bro? Cos I don't see jack s**t comin from ya other than dribble and baggin people - and the ego is goin fine, am I confident when out hunting, you bettcha, I don't miss to often, am I allowed to say that without upsetting the girls here?

Fire away girls, should be good for a laugh, the mates are loving it as am I.

[Tank]

Yawn - Do you even hunt bro? Cos I don't see jack s**t comin from ya other than dribble and baggin people - and the ego is goin fine, am I confident when out hunting, you bettcha, I don't miss to often, am I allowed to say that without upsetting the girls here?

Fire away girls, should be good for a laugh, the mates are loving it as am I.

Removed....

Apologies Nuke.

[NukeBOMB88]

For f***s sake guys if ya wanna bitch about each other , do it through private messages rather than Hijacking my thread!

[Apollo]

For f***s sake guys if ya wanna bitch about each other , do it through private messages rather than Hijacking my thread!

Gee, only 4 pages long thread and you expect it to stay on track.

Wait until they start talking about adding a threaded barrel adapter plus oil filter and it will turn into 20 pages....

[NukeBOMB88]

For f***s sake guys if ya wanna bitch about each other , do it through private messages rather than Hijacking my thread!

Gee, only 4 pages long thread and you expect it to stay on track.

Wait until they start talking about adding a threaded barrel adapter plus oil filter and it will turn into 20 pages....

[Supaduke]

I killed an elephant with a rock, but it was a .50 cal rock.......

[happyhunter]

When using a water pistol, shot placement becomes critical.

[Norton]

6000f/sec louder.

Interesting units of measurement you've adopted there mate

[jovialjosie2002]

I am reloading 204 for 55c
Projectiles 27c (SPEER 40GR OR VARMAGEDDON 32GR)
Primer 8c
Powder 20c.
So thats a saving or around $1 per round.
A Lee hand press is $130 and a set of dies is $80. You could also get a scale for $40-$90.
In the end you will break even at the 200-300 reloads mark.
I find reloading to be an enjoyable exercise. However, it takes me an hour to make about 40 rounds with the hand press. That makes reloading 204 worth it for me. Other calibres like 44magnum/44 special are also worth the effort.
You can also get winchester brass (for 204) for 40cents. I am reloading it with good accuracy, however, I don't know how many reloads I will get.
I personally wouldn't bother reloading 223.....there is just so many specials on all the time and the Hornady steel case is only 55cents for 223.

[SCJ429]

Good for you Josie. What sort of rifle do you have chambered in 204? How did you find this thread?

[in2anity]

I find reloading to be an enjoyable exercise. However, it takes me an hour to make about 40 rounds with the hand press.

Yes onya mate - great little setup you have. In fact the lee hand press and lee scales were the first equipment I had also - reloading for the 204 also would you believe!

I bet most of your time is spent measuring powder - my speed increased massively once I forked out for an electronic powder dispenser. Worth every penny imo.

Also with respect to case life - I recommend using a collet die - it really helps minimize stretch and runout, not to mention you can sometimes skip lubing/tumbling and jump straight to priming.

You can also diy anneal with a butane torch and some sort of rotating tray - I made one out out of an old microwave turntable and chopping board!

[jovialjosie2002]

Good for you Josie. What sort of rifle do you have chambered in 204? How did you find this thread?

I got the Howa Varmint Stainless....very happy with it and the price was only $590.
I think I found this thread on google.

[jovialjosie2002]

bet most of your time is spent measuring powder - my speed increased massively once I forked out for an electronic powder dispenser. Worth every penny imo.

Actually....my el cheapo e-bay scales broke...I am just using lee powder measures from now on and I haven't noticed any difference. With 204 I am visually inspecting the volume of powder in the cases....I fill them to the level of the projectile. 25 shots at 200 yards are a 5 inch group. I am happy with that. For my eyes and age....I am ecstatic with that.

[SCJ429]

The Speer 40 grain projectiles are a good thing. I use 39 grain Sierra Blitzkings which are excellent also. Those Howa Varmints are great value for money, at $590 you can afford to try a few different calibers. Keep up the great work.

[jovialjosie2002]

. Those Howa Varmints are great value for money, at $590 you can afford to try a few different calibers. Keep up the great work.
SCJ429
Yep the Howa is amazing....and so cheap. Unfortunately my safe is already full. I need to cull (probably my old 12g shotty) before I buy another Howa. I sure wish that I had bought Howa's right from the start. They seem to be like a Toyota....cheap, reliable and great shooters. I cant say that for expensive European guns (and cars) that I have bought.

[bigfellascott]

. Those Howa Varmints are great value for money, at $590 you can afford to try a few different calibers. Keep up the great work.
SCJ429
Yep the Howa is amazing....and so cheap. Unfortunately my safe is already full. I need to cull (probably my old 12g shotty) before I buy another Howa. I sure wish that I had bought Howa's right from the start. They seem to be like a Toyota....cheap, reliable and great shooters. I cant say that for expensive European guns (and cars) that I have bought.

Sounds like my experiences when it comes to Howa and Euro Rifles, I can't fault my Jap stuff, the Euro Stuff hasn't lived up to the Hype so far and for the money, I rate the Jap stuff very highly.