.308 win vs 30-06 - Same recoil, more whip?

[pmomd]

Hi guys,

Wanting to double check how .308 and 30-06 compare in a couple of ways after getting some strange(?) feedback from my local gun store.

I've been shooting .308 for a while which I'm ok with but to be honest it's probably at the upper limit of my recoil tolerance.

I'm considering getting a Ruger Hawkeye in 30-06, and am wondering about how it handles.

Speaking with the sales guy at my local gun store I obviously asked how recoil from the 30-06 compared to the .308. The guy said that recoil is the same, but that I would notice more muzzle rise when firing the 30-06.

To my eye (which is more on the novice end of the scale than the expert end) the 30-06 seems like a significantly bigger cartridge than .308? Not sure how you can gain more rise without more recoil?

Is his feedback sounding right?

Cheers.

[Yelp]

Not sure where he's getting more muzzle rise without more recoil from?

What's causing the muzzle to rise other than recoil...

[Bourt]

Not that I've done a side by side with the two, but... For the same bullet weight 30-06 has about 10% more powder than .308 win.

That says 10% more recoil to me.

[BBJ]

What's causing the muzzle to rise other than recoil...

Obviously the muzzle rise fairy. She flies invisibly underneath rifles barrels until you fire then she pushes the barrel up.

30-06 is her favourite to make jump more than others.

[Hercl]

Obviously the muzzle rise fairy. She flies invisibly underneath rifles barrels until you fire then she pushes the barrel up.

30-06 is her favourite to make jump more than others.

Wow...

[Aster]

Wow...

Someone has inhaled a bit too much copper solvent

[Aster]

On the subject of recoil though, yes, the 30-06 will have more recoil than a .308 when shooting and equal weight projectile.

As above, 10% or so sounds about right.

In terms of performance .308 and 30-06 are much the same. Where 30-06 has the edge is that it will shoot heavier pills than the .308.

.308 will top out at about 180gr pills, where the 30-06 can handle up to 220gr or thereabouts.

If you don't need to shoot the heavier bullets, there's not really any reason to go with a 30-06 IMO.

Whether or not you want that and think you can handle 10% more recoil, that's up to you.

[The Brass]

Obviously the muzzle rise fairy. She flies invisibly underneath rifles barrels until you fire then she pushes the barrel up.

30-06 is her favourite to make jump more than others.

Whatever you're smoking you need to cut back