300 AAC Blackout fad over?

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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Korkt » 11 May 2015, 8:49 am

Franky wrote:That 300 Filski looks the goods but you'd have to prep your own cases right can't buy them over the counter yet right?


You would, but should only be a matter of necking up .223 brass which is everywhere.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Franky » 15 May 2015, 8:20 pm

What is a 300 AAC
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by BBJ » 19 May 2015, 12:03 pm

Franky wrote:What is a 300 AAC


It's a rifle cartridge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_AAC_Bl ... %9735mm%29

It's a .223 case necked up to take a 30 calibre bullet.

The trade is you get a low recoil reasonably strong hitting cartridge but with limited range.

Shorter range than both the .223 and .308, not as flat shooting either but harder hitting than the .223 and lower recoil than the .308.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by RoginaJack » 24 May 2015, 1:52 pm

Westy wrote:Well I read a lot of negatives here about the 300 blackout, quick question do any of you own one???? Well I do so I think I can comment more so than the rest of you and say your right up to a point but don't knock it till you try it as they say!!!!

Well sometimes if you don't know s**t from clay your better not saying anything as I'll be.............. :lol: :D :lol:


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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Oldbloke » 24 May 2015, 9:47 pm

I cant see that it is much different from 7.62x39 or 30-30. There are so mant different rounds out there to choose from, realisticly do we need more?
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by deye243 » 24 May 2015, 11:21 pm

Chronos wrote:
deye243 wrote:with all the hassle of making cases or buying over priced when i can afford it i

will be doing a 30 apache , easy to load sub or full house that rival the 30-30 .


check out the 300 Filski

http://www.filskis.com/323_FILSKI.html

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same "crap" different jar might be an improved case but looks like a 30apache to me
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by The Brass » 25 May 2015, 11:44 am

Oldbloke wrote:I cant see that it is much different from 7.62x39 or 30-30. There are so mant different rounds out there to choose from, realisticly do we need more?


"we" average joe shooter like you and I, I'd say no.

As mentioned though it was designed for a specific military purpose.

Makes perfect sense there, down to personal taste outside of that setting.

Whatever the reason lots seem to like it.

Maybe 30-30 feels out-dated to some shooters? :unknown:
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by sandgroperbill » 25 May 2015, 11:59 am

I think its going to be a successful round. It will survive and be easily enough obtained due to it being adopted by militaries, and it makes a lot os fense to our american friends with AR platforms, so it is more likely to survive than and be readily available, without the added effort and time involved with other similar rounds. That would probably be its main advantage over here. Take that out of the equation and its much a muchness with the other rounds available.

But... Is it capable? Yes.
Does it serve a purpose? Yes
Is it any less legitimate than other rounds? No
Like pretty much all calibres, its a matter of personal opinion. But I suppose that it would also appeal to some as it is a new military round.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Carter » 26 May 2015, 2:44 pm

It already is from the looks of it.

Not such a huge following here but from all accounts it's already very popular in the states and they do most of the buying.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Franky » 26 May 2015, 3:39 pm

I reckon it's awesome as they use 2 NATO Cal which are already Available and combine them to get a hard hitting cheap to reload cartridge IMHO
Isn't 30-30 like 1800's or something LMAO
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Oldbloke » 26 May 2015, 6:08 pm

"Maybe 30-30 feels out-dated to some shooters? :unknown:" It was my first center fire. Shot heaps of pigs and goats with a Marlin lever. Just a bugger you need to use flat or round nose projectiles. Often regret selling that lever, I loved it, but needed the cash for the Mod 70 3006.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Franky » 26 May 2015, 7:09 pm

Yep I was only joking my 1st CF rifle other than a 303 was a model 94 30-30
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Combat_Wombat » 26 May 2015, 8:54 pm

Oldbloke wrote:"Maybe 30-30 feels out-dated to some shooters? :unknown:" It was my first center fire. Shot heaps of pigs and goats with a Marlin lever. Just a bugger you need to use flat or round nose projectiles. Often regret selling that lever, I loved it, but needed the cash for the Mod 70 3006.


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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Harper » 27 May 2015, 3:50 pm

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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Rocker » 02 Nov 2015, 8:08 am

That's definitely and interesting looking lever-action.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Homer » 02 Nov 2015, 8:12 am

G'Day Fella's,

Rocker (sorry I haven't read any of the posts after your initial post on this thread.

FYI, I personally can't see the purpose of the .300 AAC BO, unless you are using it thru an AR or a rifle that utilises an AR type magazine!
Personally, I have been using the 7.62x39 cartridge with reduced loads (using Trail Boss) and bullet weights, from 130 to 180grns, with very good results!!!
Here is an image of my bolt gun and accessories.
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FYI, I have a number of customers, that have .300 AAC BO's and many of them have had problems finding Safe working loads in these rifles!

Hope that helps

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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by The Brass » 04 Nov 2015, 12:53 pm

Homer wrote:I personally can't see the purpose of the .300 AAC BO, unless you are using it thru an AR or a rifle that utilises an AR type magazine!


That was the idea.

The project's goals were:

Create a reliable compact .30-cal solution for AR platform
Use existing inventory magazines while retaining their full capacity
Create the optimal platform for sound and flash suppressed fire
Create compatible supersonic ammo that matches 7.62×39mm ballistics
Provide the ability to penetrate barriers with high-mass projectiles
Provide all capabilities in a shorter, lightweight, durable, and low recoiling package


It was designed for military purposes which don't translate all that well to most civie applications. It's easy enough to make arguments why it's not the best choice hunting/target shooting but I'll still get a lot of jobs done, and if people want to spend there money on one and enjoy it who's to say they're wrong really.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by sandgroperbill » 04 Nov 2015, 11:08 pm

In a light rifle with a short barrel, it would make for a pretty decent pig gun.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by pajamatime » 05 Nov 2015, 1:55 am

Some people like wood, some people like synthetic, some people like more rail, some ppl like less. Some people like dressing up as women...but hey that's ok. Each to their own. If you love tacticool or 300b then by the mighty heavens you keep on lovin it because that's your thing and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. Old fellars need to stop being so god damn old lol
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Oldbloke » 05 Nov 2015, 4:30 am

"Old fellars need to stop being so god damn old lol"
The alternatives are:
Be young again......Id love that or
Fall off your perch.....not ready for that yet. :thumbsup:
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Homer » 05 Nov 2015, 5:23 am

The Brass wrote:
Homer wrote:I personally can't see the purpose of the .300 AAC BO, unless you are using it thru an AR or a rifle that utilises an AR type magazine!


That was the idea.

G'Day Fella's,

The Brass, there's not to many AR's in Civi's hands (Legally), in this country, hence statement!
Maybe I should have said;
I personally can't see the purpose of the .300 AAC BO "In Australia", unless you are using it thru an AR or a rifle that utilises an AR type magazine!

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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by bear foot bowhunter » 05 Nov 2015, 8:49 am

Homer wrote:

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Is that a supresor?
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by tony m » 05 Nov 2015, 10:10 am

These days the whole industry is about hype and marketing this hype.I read all this stuff and have to wonder about things like personal defence etc.We don't even lock our doors here-I would be more concerned about the farm dogs and the farm wife-or the often out longhorn bull.All three have a streak of mean.Cheers
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Homer » 05 Nov 2015, 11:15 am

bear foot bowhunter wrote:
Homer wrote:

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Is that a supresor?


G'Day Fella's,

Yes BFB, one of my designs that I manufacture (and for both Super and Sub-sonic ammo).
This one is still in the raw, and hasn't been Cerakoted!

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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by sandgroperbill » 05 Nov 2015, 11:39 am

Homer wrote:Maybe I should have said;
I personally can't see the purpose of the .300 AAC BO "In Australia", unless you are using it thru an AR or a rifle that utilises an AR type magazine!


I dunno. Horses for courses. I can see it playing a similar role to 30-30. I'm a bolt guy, levers are fine but I prefer bolts. Now, the .300blk can be chambered in a lightweight carbine or very short barrel, and taken through the thick bush and scrub and still perform well. With a short barrel, it would also serve well as a gun for a farmer's Ute or ATV, etc. It's certainly not for everyone, and yes, it would definitely make more sense and have a larger market in America, but it would still have its uses over here. Add to that that it may weall soon be standardized by several militaries, and it should make for readily available ammo. Even if it soesn't , itM's a simple job to form your own brass.

As for me, I don't currently need one or have a use for one and don't intend on getting one (at least, not for the foreseeable future) but doesn't mean someone else doesn't want one or have a need for one. And I can also see the odd shot out .223 getting rebarrelled to .300blk.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Homer » 05 Nov 2015, 4:31 pm

G'Day Fella's,

I agree SG-Bill, Horses for Courses!
But I would rather be carrying a rifle, with a cartridge in the magazine that fits the size of the action.
By this I mean a .300 AAC BO in an AR or maybe a Sako L461 bolt gun!
If I'm carrying around a .308 length actioned rifle, I'd prefer to have it chambered in .308Win!
That way, I can down load it with Sub-Sonic ammo or use standard Factory ammo and have a far more flexible and useful rifle!!!

Doh!
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Zilla » 09 Nov 2015, 9:45 am

bear foot bowhunter wrote:Is that a suppressor?


Points for not calling it a "silencer" :lol:
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by Hugh » 01 Jul 2018, 6:20 pm

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It was designed for military purposes which don't translate all that well to most civie applications. It's easy enough to make arguments why it's not the best choice hunting/target shooting but I'll still get a lot of jobs done, and if people want to spend there money on one and enjoy it who's to say they're wrong really.[/quote]
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by southeast varmiter » 01 Jul 2018, 6:31 pm

300BO is niche but strong. Once you own one you’ll not sell it.
I run the hornady 190 gr subsonic. Sound like a 22 drops fallow at 50 yards dead as a hammer.
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Re: 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Post by vmaxaust » 02 Jul 2018, 7:10 pm

southeast varmiter wrote:300BO is niche but strong. Once you own one you’ll not sell it.
I run the hornady 190 gr subsonic. Sound like a 22 drops fallow at 50 yards dead as a hammer.


300BO for me is wonderful. Ruger Ranch bolt with Holosun red dot and the accuracy is wonderful. I'm only using this for 100-150metres and it's simply much more fun than a 223. Will be making cast Hi Tek coated 140gr bullets for these for use at normal supersonic loads making costs per shot very reasonable and easier on the barrel.

Also have a Warwick with 300BO as well as a 223 barrel/receiver and only takes a few minutes to switch.

Don't knock the 300BO till you've owned one.

Those of you in Victoria there is an on line petition asking for suppressors to be legalised to reduce hearing loss for shooters. Suggest you fill in the petition. You never know one day they may allow us to shoot with suppressors. 300BO is especially useful for subsonic loads.

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