The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

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The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by MeccaOz » 09 Oct 2014, 7:03 pm

Ok I personally went down the road of the 308win, but have been engaged in a conversation with a mate for a while over the 270win and it's balistic twin ( well sort of ) the 7mm-08 As the best all round cartridges for Australia as a whole. Both these cartridges are Sambar legal in Vic and both have taken alot of African plains game, and the 270 has taken alot of Asian Buff in Australia. Whats everyone else thoughts on these two as the King of Australian game cartridges ? Anyone else have an opinion on other calibers ? I know in different areas there are different game, so other calibers are probably preferred, but we are talking about an all round Aussie cartridge.
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Chronos » 09 Oct 2014, 7:35 pm

as an all around aussie cartridge i'd put the .308 (and .243 for that matter) ahead of both the .270 and 7-08. it will do everything you need here in Oz, with the exception of having the big hitting power people look for in a dangerous game cartridge. the .308 has a massive advantage over rounds like the 7-08 here because of it's pric advantage. i've never bought 7-08 ammo but at $60-$70 a box of 20 i never will

it's only when you start doing something a little out of the ordinary that things change, but only a little

i've never shot a .270 but from what i know of it is that it excels at delivering a lighter bullet (than it's pappy the 30-06) faster making longer range shots less risky because of the flatter trajectory. like the 7-08 if you deliver a lighter bullet fast enough you can acheive the same energy. wheather or not that means cleaner kills or

the 7-08 on the other hand excels at delivering heavier bullets (similar weights to .308), their high BC means they hit harder than similar weight bullets from a .308 allowing you do reduce bullet weight a little and retain downrange energy while reducing recoil. it's designed with metallic silhouette in mind, the only target shooting discipline where energy down range translates directly to higher scores. doesn't matter if you hit a ram at 500m if it simply rings and doesn't fall. it just so happens that also makes it a good mid range hunting cartridge where it's better ballistics mean less drop and more hitting power


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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Timb0 » 09 Oct 2014, 8:41 pm

This could turn into a .270 vs 7mm-08 post!
For some people that shoot pigs, small deer, goats, foxes, dogs, cats, maybe a sneaky roo I would say the .243 is the ideal all rounder in Australia. If your going to shoot camels, donkeys, large deer, scrub bulls and buff you obviously need something bigger.
The .308win is a very versatile cartridge as you can shoot 130gr projectile somewhat fast and flat for goats etc then load 200gr for scrub bulls and other large animals. I think the .308win is ideal if you live in the northern parts of Australia and aren't going after Buff (and only want to own one gun). 30-06 even better.
Out of .308, 243 and .270, I use the .270 the most as it shoots flatter than the .308 and hits harder than the .243. My mate shoots a 7mm-08 and I chose the .270win as he seems to have problems getting ammo sometimes and there was a time when he had trouble getting 7mm hunting projectiles in 140gr.
I shoot 130gr projectiles, my mate shoots 140gr. In this case the .270 shoots a bit flatter. You could manipulate things to make either the winner but they are common loads for the two and in real world hunting its hard to notice.
I guess I have chosen the .270 because it makes life easy for me as reloading components and factory ammo are easy to come by. Not much else in it really.
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Bennybigbores » 09 Oct 2014, 8:57 pm

If you have read any of my other post you know I'm going to carry on about .243 being the best all rounder and I believe it it is, :roll: with the exception of the big boys, buff, samba, scub bull, and drop bears. :evil: So unless specifically hunting big game I'd go .243 any day hand loaded down to 55gr up to 105gr with a 1:10 twist very versatile. Buy a really nice .243 for everything up to big then get a (585 hubel) for the rest , have a look at the 585H they say its still a shot gun, but it's casings are necked up 50BMG cases a true American designed overkill if there ever was one.......................but I still want one
Ps if I had to pick between .270win and 7mm-08, i would pick the .270win a tried proven flat killer, had one years ago but was to much gun for my every day stuff, wish I never sold it though. Haven't shot a 7mm -08 but I got both his little bro .243 and big bro .308
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Chronos » 09 Oct 2014, 9:04 pm

Bennybigbores wrote:If you have read any of my other post you know I'm going to carry on about .243 being the best all rounder and I believe it it is, with the exception of the big boys, buff, samba, scub bull, and drop bears. So unless specifically hunting big game I'd go .243 any day hand loaded down to 55gr up to 105gr with a 1:10 twist very versatile. Buy a really nice .243 for everything up to big then get a (585 hubel) for the rest , have a look at the 585H they say its still a shot gun, but it's casings are necked up 50BMG cases a true American designed overkill if there ever was one.......................but I still want one


quick get the camera, a 6.5X55 owner is saying the .243 is the best all round caliber :lol:

i think most would agree, the .243 has it for 90% of hunting in Oz,

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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by MeccaOz » 09 Oct 2014, 9:38 pm

LOL your all right in my opinion. I have seen the price of 7mm-08 come down some. Yesterday I saw a box of 20 going for $45. And just my opinion here but if you discount buff / bulls / camels and the ever dangerous drop bear, I'd have to say q quarter bore would be ideal. 25/06 / 257 Roberts / 257 Weatherby / 243, all would cut it, but then it would come down preference and running costs. Ive heard one old buff hunter say if you put 100gn projie at 3000 fps in the ear of a buff it will drop right there. Not an ideal choice sure but it can be done. As for the 308 more buff have been taken with it in Oz than anything else, with the exception of the old 303, which ballistically is very similar. Theres no right or wrong answer here, just looking for opinions and drawing on the experience of others :)
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Timb0 » 09 Oct 2014, 10:22 pm

If I come across a buff and I had my .308 I would definitely try and shoot it. Would I feel confident I would drop it ? No.
Have I ever shot one and know what I'm talking about? No.
In saying that W.D.M Bell shot over 800 elephants with a 7x57. So I don't know what I'm worried about.
But I still wouldn't select a .308 for Buffalo shooting.. Or anything smaller than 375H&H
Maybe I need to buy one :)
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by MeccaOz » 10 Oct 2014, 12:14 am

Timb0 wrote:If I come across a buff and I had my .308 I would definitely try and shoot it. Would I feel confident I would drop it ? No.
Have I ever shot one and know what I'm talking about? No.
In saying that W.D.M Bell shot over 800 elephants with a 7x57. So I don't know what I'm worried about.
But I still wouldn't select a .308 for Buffalo shooting.. Or anything smaller than 375H&H
Maybe I need to buy one :)


A Man after my heart ! I tried tell the other half, that if I didnt get a 375 We could all be in life threatening danger at some point.. She said When Buffalo start roaming here around town armed with guns, I could have one .... Im starting to think she doesnt quite take me at my word :lol:
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Lorgar » 10 Oct 2014, 8:13 am

Chronos wrote:as an all around aussie cartridge i'd put the .308 (and .243 for that matter) ahead of both the .270 and 7-08.


:o *gasp* Traitor!

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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Chronos » 10 Oct 2014, 8:48 am

:lol:

:whispers to Logar: " I'm just saying that to keep them all away from my supply of rem corelokts and nosler BT's"

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Post by Lorgar » 10 Oct 2014, 10:26 am

Right, right... I'll play along.

I agree.

Nosler Ballistic tips are bad, especially the 7mm 120gr and 140gr ones in shops around Melbourne.

No one should buy those!

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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by MeccaOz » 10 Oct 2014, 12:55 pm

Lorgar wrote:Right, right... I'll play along.

I agree.

Nosler Ballistic tips are bad, especially the 7mm 120gr and 140gr ones in shops around Melbourne.

No one should buy those!

*wink*


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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by bobnob » 11 Oct 2014, 3:11 pm

Shooting 140 or 150g bullets, I think the 270 Win has the edge because it'll fire them at higher velocity and a little flatter and harder hitting.

The 7-08 can shoot heavier ones up to 175g Hornadys. Probably a little better for big stuff however the trajectory will be rainbow-ish.

For mine the boring old 308 Win is the best of the lot, though I've shot more 270 than anything else the last few years, mainly using 150g bullets around 2950-3000fps. It's very very effective.

I honestly don't know a better combo than the 270 Win shooting 140g Accubonds at 3050-3100fps. Those projectiles are a little expensive but they are accurate and do the business!
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by heeple » 13 Oct 2014, 6:11 pm

"The 7-08 can shoot heavier ones up to 175g Hornadys. Probably a little better for big stuff however the trajectory will be rainbow-ish."

You know anyone using those for hunting though?

About 140gr seems to be the popular spot and that's pretty flat.
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by BBJ » 13 Oct 2014, 6:21 pm

That's more the realm of the 7mm Rem Mag IMO.

For hunting at least.
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by bobnob » 14 Oct 2014, 4:34 pm

heeple wrote:You know anyone using those for hunting though?

About 140gr seems to be the popular spot and that's pretty flat.


No but if I had a 7-08 I wouldn't hesitate.

I don't mind 180 grainers on the 308 Win which is much the same.

Having said all that I think the 308 with 150g soft points are the best balanced big game cartridge going.
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by MeccaOz » 14 Oct 2014, 5:22 pm

After reading Bennybigbores post I just had to see a 585 Huble ... Heres a youtube video, You have to listen to it with the sound up, not for the bang but the commentary, lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HypaUdwQGAc
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Chronos » 14 Oct 2014, 6:00 pm

:lol: "ready?", when ever you are....AH F**K, I wasn't ready for that!!!"

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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by Chickenhawk » 15 Oct 2014, 2:45 pm

Stand behind the big rifles lady, not beside them :lol:
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Re: The case for the 270win and 7mm-08

Post by chacka » 15 Oct 2014, 2:46 pm

You know it's going to be big when the guy spends 15 seconds getting his footing right :D
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