What does "flat shooting" mean to you

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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by Lorgar » 25 Oct 2014, 10:36 am

My 120gr 7mm load when zeroed at 100m has about 2.5" drop at 200m.

That's plenty flat IMO. Makes no difference for game, foxes etc. On the smallest target of a rabbit at 200m I can still aim at the rabbit rather than the air above it which is easy.
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by Lorgar » 25 Oct 2014, 10:37 am

Er that's 7mm-08, not 7mm Rem Mag I should say too.
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by North East » 25 Oct 2014, 10:46 am

My .30-06 shoots very flat….at 50 meters.
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by MeccaOz » 25 Oct 2014, 10:57 am

Im agreeing with wrenchman
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by handofcod » 25 Oct 2014, 11:07 am

I've never thought if 308 as a rainbow trajectory but I does depend on grain weight of the projectile I guess. A 30-06 shooting 220gr round nose would probably qualify as "rainbow" but then 150gr spire point wouldn't.... Swings and round abouts.
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by mausermate » 25 Oct 2014, 11:58 am

I would not go so far as to say the 308 is no good as a hunting cartridge, it is, after all, possibly the most widely used hunting cartridge in the world, they can't all be wrong, but I will say that there are many better cartridges and "no" I am not trying to rev things up. You might think I have "no clue" bully for you.
As I said in my previous post "horses for courses" and IMO you need to match the cartridge to the application. Yes, we do not all have the funds to place an arsenal in our gun room to match every hunting situation we may encounter but I have found that using alternatives brings a whole new meaning to hunting as the 308, in many situations is left wanting. Particularly here is AUS.

Further to that, Mil dot and other tactical reticules, exposed and ballistic turrets and other gizmos that have turned up on our shop shelves these days do nothing for me. Most of the people I know that have them, can't use them, find their turret has been moved in the field, forget the settings or spent half an hour working out the distance to the animal, got their chart out fiddled around and the animal has run away.
If I may offer any advice to those that are looking to purchase a hunting rifle and are interested in good hunting, bagging your quarry and want to know something about trajectory........ you need a flat shooting cartridge (sorry, the 308 is not a flat shooting cartridge), match the cartridge to the animals you wish to hunt to provide a clean effective kill every time, don't load yourself up with gadgets, keep it simple and concentrate on the hunt and pulling a good shot. Sight your rifle to provide the best "point blank range" for your cartridge so that you aim dead on the animals vitals every time. If it is out of your maximum PBR, try and get a little closer. That is what "hunting" is all about. IMVHO.
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by Chronos » 25 Oct 2014, 12:08 pm

mausermate wrote:Sight your rifle to provide the best "point blank range" for your cartridge so that you aim dead on the animals vitals every time. If it is out of your maximum PBR, try and get a little closer


i think thats the key, i hear people saying they zero their rifle at 100m, i am of the opinion that if you are utilizing your rifles at ranges from short to medium, say 250-300m, particularly with a flat shooting cartridge like a .243 or .204R a 200m zero may be more appropriate

zerod at a a longer distance means you can hold dead on from the muzzle out to over 250m and the trajectory never moves more that 1.5" above or below your line of sight leaving you with more focus to spend on other things.

there's a lot to be said for a quality 3-9X40 scope with hunting turrets, set and forget :D

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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by North East » 25 Oct 2014, 12:11 pm

When it comes to hunting in my area a shot is rarely taken beyond 100 yards due to the nature of the terrain and dense vegetation.

So a .30-06 suits me just fine with 180gn projectiles, hits hard and at that distance shoots flat. I don't give a damn what it does beyond that and probably would not take the shot anyway as I use an Aimpoint 1X red dot.
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by Warrigul » 25 Oct 2014, 2:08 pm

Lots of good answers, honestly keep it simple and the range as short as possible like a couple of others have said.

You know my old .303 shoots a bit high at 100 but a shot aimed at the spine above the boiler room is going to be a solid hit on something past 150 out to about 300 max(and when I pace it out the distance is always different to what I estimated in the heat of the moment- EVERY SINGLE TIME) and how do I know that? I haven't altered the settings in years. .

MM & NE pretty much nailed it.
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by Jack V » 25 Oct 2014, 4:02 pm

The 308 is a flat shooting cartridge compared to a 44-40 . It's all relative to what you are comparing too. The only game in Australia that a 308 is a bit under gunned for at normal ranges is Buff and many are taken anyway with the 308 , 303 even the 30-30 . I think the bully for you is the bully s**t !
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by mausermate » 25 Oct 2014, 9:01 pm

Jack V wrote:The 308 is a flat shooting cartridge compared to a 44-40 . It's all relative to what you are comparing too. The only game in Australia that a 308 is a bit under gunned for at normal ranges is Buff and many are taken anyway with the 308 , 303 even the 30-30 . I think the bully for you is the bully s**t !

:lol: you grandstand that someone has not clue about stuff because they disagree with you and accuse them of saying stuff just to rev things up. What do you call that? :lol:
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by Jack V » 25 Oct 2014, 11:03 pm

Stop playing the victim fool you stated bull s**t from the start .
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by wrenchman » 26 Oct 2014, 2:13 am

if you like the 308 it will do what ever you want it to do and if you can hand load you can tailer loads to shooot as flat as you want dont dout your gun have fun go shooting and hunting
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by mausermate » 26 Oct 2014, 9:02 am

Jack V wrote:Stop playing the victim fool you stated bull s**t from the start .


Settle down!

You have not indicated exactly what I said that is bullsh**t so I can only assume you mean the whole lot.

Sorry we don't all agree with you Jack.

Rant, rave, throw abuse, call it crap, do what you like! I don't care.

Anyway, I'm off to church.........coming?
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by inventurkey » 26 Oct 2014, 8:45 pm

.17-50BMG.

That's flat :lol:
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by FuzzyM » 26 Oct 2014, 8:53 pm

inventurkey wrote:.17-50BMG.

That's flat :lol:


How is the recoil? ;)
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by inventurkey » 26 Oct 2014, 8:57 pm

It's not the recoil so much as the breech exploding that would get you :lol:
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by FuzzyM » 26 Oct 2014, 9:15 pm

inventurkey wrote:It's not the recoil so much as the breech exploding that would get you :lol:


I prefer the .204-416 Barrett myself. Better bullet weight. :D
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by Combat_Wombat » 26 Oct 2014, 9:25 pm

FuzzyM wrote:
inventurkey wrote:.17-50BMG.

That's flat :lol:


How is the recoil? ;)


Doesn't shoot flat so much as blow out a cloud of lead and copper dust
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by jordy » 27 Oct 2014, 1:21 pm

Flat shooting shotgun then? :lol:
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Re: What does "flat shooting" mean to you

Post by joojoobeans » 21 Nov 2014, 8:18 am

26 Nosler is the new answer I think :lol:
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