Silver87 wrote:I read an interesting article some time ago about the the use of BTHP Sierra matchking projectiles for military sniping use. It was found that the small hallow point isn't an aid to expansion but an artifact from the manufacturing proccess which makes them legal for armed combat as per the Hague Convention. Further more FMJ is a more robust projectile, making them less susceptible to rounded off or broken tips making them serviceible for decades and even centuries (click... bang )
Jack V wrote:Geneva convention outlawed the use of other types of projectiles but most Military in the past recognised anyway that it is better to wound an enemy rather than to kill them. That means that more man power and money is taken up by caring for the wounded. Fairly callous approach but there it is.
MeccaOz wrote:Open Tip Mouth OTM hollow pionts arent for hunting either, they are designed not to expand either, but I think there what your talking about, Chronos. FMJ = Penetration, also on our rifle range they only allow them, not sure why though.
MeccaOz wrote:Open Tip Mouth OTM hollow pionts arent for hunting either, they are designed not to expand either, but I think there what your talking about, Chronos. FMJ = Penetration, also on our rifle range they only allow them, not sure why though.
1290 wrote:FMJs to keep you alive during a 'war'.... if found with soft point/expanding bullets you'd be punished, it was death years ago...
Technically the spitzer pointed (FMJ) bullets are most streamlined as such are very good for target, some hollow points though have such a fine hollow they are just as if not more streamlined...
FMJs came aboutaround the turn of the last century when it was determined that soft point were not sufficiently 'gentleman-like' in war.. In such wars as the Zulu and Boer war, particularly the Zulu and other native wars were the big fat soft 45cal projectiles were removing limbs, causing huge wounds, exploding skulls etc, it was decided that a jacketed/pointed (non-expanding) bullet was the way to go as a new set of cricket rules.... If caught with dum-dum'ed (term used from Dum Dum Arsenal India) ie, a modified to expand fmj you'd be in the ****** big time.
This was decided at the Hague Convention (not Geneva) 1899?? on the Laws and customs of War on Land.....good read....
Rules apply between signatories, I've heard it said that although Afghanistan is a party to the agreement, the Talliwackers are not hence the return (just quietly) to hollow point sniping bullets... whether this is true or not...
Warrigul wrote:Mind you the only thing that really protects a target frame is accurate shooting.
Jack V wrote:No it don't because the other shooters can hit your frame even if you don't , especially 22 rimfire ricochets from the 50 meter line .
If you play around with scopes a lot then it's almost inevitable that you will hit your frame some time sighting in .
1290 wrote:FMJs came aboutaround the turn of the last century when it was determined that soft point were not sufficiently 'gentleman-like' in war..