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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Korkt » 24 Dec 2014, 1:05 pm

Westy wrote:Ok maybe I should just mind my own business but how many times do I see a young bloke walk into a LGS and ask straight away for a 30-06 or a 270 and the amount of 308's that walk out the door well it's staggering.


There is bias on both sides.

Not knocking it at all, but I think you'd agreed there was a lot of unwarranted hype around the 300 AAC. This is where the back and forth stems from I think.

Many, I think, bought it because of the tacticool factor. As I'm sure you know it's originally developed for the military to be used with sub-sonic rounds and suppressors.

Here where we can't have suppressors, 'the point' of the cartridge is somewhat negated. If you were shooting in the US where suppressors are legal it would be a whole different kettle of fish.

Not saying it doesn't have it's uses, obviously you're showing it does.

My point is definitely some, perhaps many, bought it for the wrong reason. They talk it up big time, and in equal over-reaction to the unwarranted hype others put it down big time in defence of their old favourite the .308. or whatever their more mainstream preference is. Everyone ends up arguing over nothing.

As said not knocking it, that's just the situation as I see it.
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by RealNick » 24 Dec 2014, 1:08 pm

North East wrote:I changed over to .30-06 for its ability to put out 180gn pills or larger. I also use 125gn pills. I like the variety of projectile weights that the .30-06 can deliver with authority. Each to there own I guess., it's just personal preference.


Yeah fair enough.

Just interested in hearing your reasoning on the large cartridge :)
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Lorgar » 24 Dec 2014, 1:10 pm

North East wrote:I used to own a Ruger .308 but wanted something lighter for carrying around the bush. When the T3 Lite came out I brought one immediately and it gave me an excuse to change calibers.


I did something along similar lines.

I originally had a Ruger Hawkeye (timber/blue) in .308 and while it was good, it was a bit heavy. It was accurate too, but was the sweet spot for hand loads was pretty tight around the 150gr region.

I'd had tried a bunch of 125gr, 160gr, 165gr and 180gr loads without much success. That's a minor gripe, I suppose. In the 150gr range there were great options like Nosler Ballistic Tips, Sierra Pro-Hunters etc., so got the job done.

Anyhoo...

I switched from the Ruger to a fluted Tikka Hunter action/barrel, in a Forest stock, to get something a little nicer and more comfortable and switched to 7mm while I had the chance.

I have loads worked up for 120gr and 140gr Nosler BT, which I alternative between depending on what game is expected.

The 120gr is pretty pleasant to shoot. It's overkill, of course, if shooting foxes but isn't ridiculous. It's well suited to goats, moderate piggies, and legal here in Vic for the 3 smaller deer breeds. Very diverse.

I put in the 140gr if I'm out specifically for deer.

As to Westy's point of guys using huge calibres for any hunting, I'll just say I'm yet to see anything shrug off a 140gr pill at 2,500fps to the noodle or boiler room.
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Westy » 24 Dec 2014, 2:32 pm

I guess your right people do have different idea's on what's best for them.

As I'm almost 50 I find the recoil of the larger rifles a little more than annoying now days and tend to stay on the quitter and less recoiling rifles side, this being said I still love getting out amongst it and don't like to find myself ever under gunned...

Tactical "NO" but "Cool" yes I do love my 300aac and you have to admit when the suppressors finally arrive and they will were ready to go!!!! Different horses different courses you know what I mean!!!!LMFAO
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Yelp » 25 Dec 2014, 10:45 am

Ok so big question time Westy...

IF you lived in the US where they didn't have the appearance laws.... how many picatinny rails and accessories would you have on your .300 AAC? :lol:
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Westy » 25 Dec 2014, 11:35 am

Hey Yelp,

I wouldn't change it one little bit!!!!! I love this thing as it is, had Mark F from wild Dog give me a few bits and I replaced the stock, it is what I wanted it to be the non recoiling 308 that stops monster pigs and red deer stone cold dead out to 150m!

Didn't buy it to be a tactical tool just it fitted the criteria that I had in mind at the time... :o :shock: 8-) and man it's Bloody Awesome!!!!
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Yelp » 26 Dec 2014, 10:51 am

Well, you can't argue with that boar at your feet that's for sure :)
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by headspace » 30 Dec 2014, 4:47 pm

Westy's desperately trying to get things back on topic, so play nice otherwise he'll come around to your house and piss down your chimney! I have a 222 that I'm infatuated with, plus a 223 that's too heavy to cart all around the bush. But for power and performance I'll call on the 270W with 140gn SST's and the 308W with 165gn Interlocks. I can shoot too, the Army told me so.
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Westy » 30 Dec 2014, 7:46 pm

Those dills haven't won a war since 1945!!!!

Oh holy s**t it's going to rain down on me now!!!! :lol: :D :lol:
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Old Fart » 31 Dec 2014, 8:23 am

headspace wrote:I can shoot too, the Army told me so.


Was that the 'broad side of a building' test you passed? :lol: :D
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Re: Big Pig Little Bullet

Post by Gregg » 31 Dec 2014, 8:24 am

Westy wrote:Those dills haven't won a war since 1945!!!! Oh holy s**t it's going to rain down on me now!!!! :lol: :D :lol:


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