308w vs 3006s

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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by MalleeFarmer » 28 Jan 2015, 2:42 pm

The .308 will do everything the 06 will do in a short action only real difference is when you get to 180-200g then you'll need the 06. The 08 was designed to replicate the 06 in a short action Cartridge.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by North East » 28 Jan 2015, 3:02 pm

MalleeFarmer wrote:The .308 will do everything the 06 will do in a short action only real difference is when you get to 180-200g then you'll need the 06. The 08 was designed to replicate the 06 in a short action Cartridge.


That's the advantage....with 150-180g and above.

See if you can get hold of a copy of Errol Masons latest magazine "Secrets of the Sambar"....a very interesting article on the .30-06.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by KWhorenet » 28 Jan 2015, 6:16 pm

Goshawk wrote:I'm hoping to run just one weight round. I have found the 80gr barnes tsx (I think, bloody acronyms) punches and nice hole through fallow. Hopefully a 130gr 308 version will do the same to reds and sambar.



What's the minimum projectile weight for Fallow in the ACT?
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Post by VICHunter » 28 Jan 2015, 6:26 pm

I'm assuming he meant 180gr TSX in the comment above since we're talking .30 cal.

Not 80gr? Typo?
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by KWhorenet » 28 Jan 2015, 6:35 pm

VICHunter wrote:I'm assuming he meant 180gr TSX in the comment above since we're talking .30 cal.

Not 80gr? Typo?


Out of a .243 the 80gr would sound right. Don't know why I asked now when I think of it. If I go to ACT this year I'll have 30cal anyway.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by Supporter » 29 Jan 2015, 2:43 pm

Not good news going by SSAA website...

Australian Capital Territory

Hunting is limited to feral animals on private property with landowners’ permission to hunt on the property. The ACT doesn’t have any species currently classified as game that can be taken by recreational hunters.

Only a current firearms licence is required to hunt on private property. There is no hunting permit or fee applicable. Juniors between the age of 12 and 18 years can apply for a minors firearm permit.

The following animals are some of the species classified as feral and can be taken.

Rabbit
Hare
Fox
Pig
Goat
Feral cat
Feral dog


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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by North East » 29 Jan 2015, 2:47 pm

You better move to Vic fellas....it's open season down here.
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Post by Warrigul » 29 Jan 2015, 3:47 pm

North East wrote:You better move to Vic fellas....it's open season down here.


We get two short seasons here in TAS, bloody things are pests and it should be all out war.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by Jack V » 29 Jan 2015, 5:48 pm

If you are going very short with the barrel then a 308 is a better choice than 30-06 . The shorter case ( powder column ) will burn faster powders better .
If you fire a 30-06 using slow powders in a short barrel most of the energy is lost in the air and it could be not much better than a 308 . Also a lot of powder burning as a large muzzle flash is very noisy and could also affect accuracy .
Most factory ammo is designed for 22 to 26 inch barrels not 16 inch . 180 grain bullet is a bit too heavy for 308 case and if you are going to go short barrel and faster powders then heavy bullets show pressure signs quicker . I would go with the lighter range of bullets 130 to 150 with the faster powder for the cartridge. Plenty of bullet for Fallow and have a few 165 grain bonded bullets for Sambar .
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by North East » 29 Jan 2015, 5:55 pm

Jack V wrote:If you are going very short with the barrel then a 308 is a better choice than 30-06 . The shorter case ( powder column ) will burn faster powders better .
If you fire a 30-06 using slow powders in a short barrel most of the energy is lost in the air and it could be not much better than a 308 . Also a lot of powder burning as a large muzzle flash is very noisy and could also affect accuracy .
Most factory ammo is designed for 22 to 26 inch barrels not 16 inch . 180 grain bullet is a bit too heavy for 308 case and if you are going to go short barrel and faster powders then heavy bullets show pressure signs quicker . I would go with the lighter range of bullets 130 to 150 with the faster powder for the cartridge. Plenty of bullet for Fallow and have a few 165 grain bonded bullets for Sambar .


By the time you work all that crap out might as well go for the .30-06. :drinks:
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by Jack V » 29 Jan 2015, 6:07 pm

No , for his situation 308 is the better short barrel choice .
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Post by VICHunter » 30 Jan 2015, 9:20 am

North East wrote:You better move to Vic fellas....it's open season down here.


Sound advice :D
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by Gwion » 30 Jan 2015, 2:16 pm

If you are mega keen on a short barrel but like the over all feel and features of another rifle, it doesn't cost much to have the barrel lopped and re-crowned by a competent smith. Get it threaded at the same time for a muzzle brake to ease recoil a bit. Shortening a long barrel will give you a stouter barrel than a factory shorty in a lot of instances, from the spec comparisons i've been doing lately.

Oh yeah, expect the shorty to be LOUD.
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Post by jordy » 31 Jan 2015, 4:08 pm

Gwion wrote:Oh yeah, expect the shorty to be LOUD.


That they are.

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Post by Goshawk » 14 Mar 2015, 7:22 pm

North East wrote:Who needs magnification. This will get you out to 300 yards with no parallax error. The tape over the muzzle is a Victorian thing...just shoot it off.

Hey north east, what size dot has your scope got? Looks like the exact setup is want but thinking of 308 or 270 now, used my mates 3006 tikka and found it had a fair bit of kick,... Maybe I should take my floral dress off and man up.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by North East » 14 Mar 2015, 9:10 pm

2 MOA red dot.
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Post by Grrzrr » 18 Mar 2015, 1:17 pm

jordy wrote:A 16.5 is a real blast to the face.


And the guy next to you :lol:
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Post by chrispy88 » 20 Mar 2015, 7:34 am

Don't mean to take off topic but can someone please explain the tape? Just to keep crud out of the bore while matching through the scrub?
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by North East » 20 Mar 2015, 8:04 am

chrispy88 wrote:Don't mean to take off topic but can someone please explain the tape? Just to keep crud out of the bore while matching through the scrub?


Exactly...just shoot it off.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by Jessie » 20 Mar 2015, 9:55 am

Yep.

It just blows off upon firing. Doesn't effect your accuracy or anything to worry about.

Not a bad idea if you're in dense brush. Wouldn't hurt in wet weather either if you want to be real careful.
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Post by Combat_Wombat » 20 Mar 2015, 4:55 pm

Jessie wrote:Yep.

It just blows off upon firing. Doesn't effect your accuracy or anything to worry about.

Not a bad idea if you're in dense brush. Wouldn't hurt in wet weather either if you want to be real careful.



I've heard that the military uses condoms to keep sand out on some of the bigger guns. Did come from a yank in the marines so he could have been talking turkey who knows.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by Jessie » 20 Mar 2015, 6:29 pm

He was probably being straight with you I think.

Seems like it would work fine? Read a few shooters saying they do to.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by North East » 20 Mar 2015, 7:14 pm

It work just fine...don't worry about it...quite a safe practice....I'd never hesitate to do it.
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Re: 308w vs 3006s

Post by pmomd » 22 Mar 2015, 1:17 pm

Someone will give it a go after reading this.

Post back once you have :lol:
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