308w vs 3006s

[Lorgar]

My favourite rifle...kicks a bit but manageable.

The recoil pads are pretty decent on the Tikkas.

Bit off topic but... I have (and have had others) a Ruger Hawkeye in .308. The Hawkeye recoil pads are s**t, there is no other word for it. Too thin and too hard.

Shooting a mates T3 lite in .300 WM is easier on the should than shooting the Hawkeye .308 which has less actual recoil and is a heavier rifle.

[AusC]

I'm mainly going to use it for fallow...

Mate, .308 is plenty for fallow. Plenty.

Absolutely no need for a 30-06 for them. Same yourself the money and the shoulder stress IMO.

Dunno if we're talking about a different purpose now when you mentioned .338, but that's definitely getting silly for hunting fallow deer.

[North East]

Like others have said, a .30-06 is to much gun for chasing fallow. Only really needed if you intend to have a go at Sambar further down the track.

If fallow are the only thing on the menu a .243 would suffice.

[Oldbloke]

I'm mainly going to use it for fallow...

Mate, .308 is plenty for fallow. Plenty.

Absolutely no need for a 30-06 for them. Same yourself the money and the shoulder stress IMO.

Dunno if we're talking about a different purpose now when you mentioned .338, but that's definitely getting silly for hunting fallow deer.

+1 but if he has ideas for other game in the future a 308 (or something else) may be the go. You can always use mild loads.
A 338 in a light weight rifle is looking to get a good kick in the shoulder. I'm not sure why 338 and bigger rounds are so popular, 7 mm, 303s, 308s. 270s, and 3006s (and you could name a few other popular rounds) all get the job done with good placement, and legal for almost any animal in all states. (I think? Might get corrected here.)

[Goshawk]

I'm mainly going to use it for fallow...

Mate, .308 is plenty for fallow. Plenty.

Dunno if we're talking about a different purpose now when you mentioned .338, but that's definitely getting silly for hunting fallow deer.

I mainly shoot fallow but I have seen some sambar and big reds too, I have never tried them due to using my trusty 243w which feels quite small when you see how thick these deer can get.

I was thinking the short 338 federal (338cal in 308 brass) would throw enough weight for these guys but decided against it as it would be a pain sourcing ammunition and decent brass.

Sounds like the 308 will be enough for my tasks.

Thanks everyone for the advice!

[North East]

If you have your heart set on a .308 use 130gn pills for the fallow and 150gn pills for Sambar and Reds...I prefer 180gn but the 150gn pills will do the job.

[Oldbloke]

If you have your heart set on a .308 use 130gn pills for the fallow and 150gn pills for Sambar and Reds...I prefer 180gn but the 150gn pills will do the job.

+1

[AusC]

I mainly shoot fallow but I have seen some sambar and big reds too, I have never tried them due to using my trusty 243w which feels quite small when you see how thick these deer can get.

I was thinking the short 338 federal (338cal in 308 brass) would throw enough weight for these guys but decided against it as it would be a pain sourcing ammunition and decent brass.

Sounds like the 308 will be enough for my tasks.

I agree, .308W will be the best all-rounder for you.

It's more than needed for Fallow without going well overboard, and if you cross paths with a Sambar half decent shot placement with the .308 and it will drop no problem.

Give the .338 a miss

[wrenchman]

what a lot of guys do here is if you live were you can hunt multi specis they hunt with a round that will work well on all like the 180 and hunt it all you might be over guned in some case but meat in the pot is what counts

[North East]

what a lot of guys do here is if you live were you can hunt multi specis they hunt with a round that will work well on all like the 180 and hunt it all you might be over guned in some case but meat in the pot is what counts

That's the advantage of the .30-06...the variety of projectile weights you can run through it or like you say just stick to a 180gn.

[Goshawk]

I'm hoping to run just one weight round. I have found the 80gr barnes tsx (I think, bloody acronyms) punches and nice hole through fallow. Hopefully a 130gr 308 version will do the same to reds and sambar.

[VICHunter]

I'd say that'll do the trick.

[MalleeFarmer]

The .308 will do everything the 06 will do in a short action only real difference is when you get to 180-200g then you'll need the 06. The 08 was designed to replicate the 06 in a short action Cartridge.

[North East]

The .308 will do everything the 06 will do in a short action only real difference is when you get to 180-200g then you'll need the 06. The 08 was designed to replicate the 06 in a short action Cartridge.

That's the advantage....with 150-180g and above.

See if you can get hold of a copy of Errol Masons latest magazine "Secrets of the Sambar"....a very interesting article on the .30-06.

[KWhorenet]

I'm hoping to run just one weight round. I have found the 80gr barnes tsx (I think, bloody acronyms) punches and nice hole through fallow. Hopefully a 130gr 308 version will do the same to reds and sambar.

What's the minimum projectile weight for Fallow in the ACT?

[VICHunter]

I'm assuming he meant 180gr TSX in the comment above since we're talking .30 cal.

Not 80gr? Typo?

[KWhorenet]

I'm assuming he meant 180gr TSX in the comment above since we're talking .30 cal.

Not 80gr? Typo?

Out of a .243 the 80gr would sound right. Don't know why I asked now when I think of it. If I go to ACT this year I'll have 30cal anyway.

[Supporter]

Not good news going by SSAA website...

Australian Capital Territory

Hunting is limited to feral animals on private property with landowners’ permission to hunt on the property. The ACT doesn’t have any species currently classified as game that can be taken by recreational hunters.

Only a current firearms licence is required to hunt on private property. There is no hunting permit or fee applicable. Juniors between the age of 12 and 18 years can apply for a minors firearm permit.

The following animals are some of the species classified as feral and can be taken.

Rabbit
Hare
Fox
Pig
Goat
Feral cat
Feral dog

[North East]

You better move to Vic fellas....it's open season down here.

[Warrigul]

You better move to Vic fellas....it's open season down here.

We get two short seasons here in TAS, bloody things are pests and it should be all out war.

[Jack V]

If you are going very short with the barrel then a 308 is a better choice than 30-06 . The shorter case ( powder column ) will burn faster powders better .
If you fire a 30-06 using slow powders in a short barrel most of the energy is lost in the air and it could be not much better than a 308 . Also a lot of powder burning as a large muzzle flash is very noisy and could also affect accuracy .
Most factory ammo is designed for 22 to 26 inch barrels not 16 inch . 180 grain bullet is a bit too heavy for 308 case and if you are going to go short barrel and faster powders then heavy bullets show pressure signs quicker . I would go with the lighter range of bullets 130 to 150 with the faster powder for the cartridge. Plenty of bullet for Fallow and have a few 165 grain bonded bullets for Sambar .

[North East]

If you are going very short with the barrel then a 308 is a better choice than 30-06 . The shorter case ( powder column ) will burn faster powders better .
If you fire a 30-06 using slow powders in a short barrel most of the energy is lost in the air and it could be not much better than a 308 . Also a lot of powder burning as a large muzzle flash is very noisy and could also affect accuracy .
Most factory ammo is designed for 22 to 26 inch barrels not 16 inch . 180 grain bullet is a bit too heavy for 308 case and if you are going to go short barrel and faster powders then heavy bullets show pressure signs quicker . I would go with the lighter range of bullets 130 to 150 with the faster powder for the cartridge. Plenty of bullet for Fallow and have a few 165 grain bonded bullets for Sambar .

By the time you work all that crap out might as well go for the .30-06.

[Jack V]

No , for his situation 308 is the better short barrel choice .

[VICHunter]

You better move to Vic fellas....it's open season down here.

Sound advice

[Gwion]

If you are mega keen on a short barrel but like the over all feel and features of another rifle, it doesn't cost much to have the barrel lopped and re-crowned by a competent smith. Get it threaded at the same time for a muzzle brake to ease recoil a bit. Shortening a long barrel will give you a stouter barrel than a factory shorty in a lot of instances, from the spec comparisons i've been doing lately.

Oh yeah, expect the shorty to be LOUD.

[jordy]

Oh yeah, expect the shorty to be LOUD.

That they are.

A 16.5 is a real blast to the face.

[Goshawk]

Who needs magnification. This will get you out to 300 yards with no parallax error. The tape over the muzzle is a Victorian thing...just shoot it off.

Hey north east, what size dot has your scope got? Looks like the exact setup is want but thinking of 308 or 270 now, used my mates 3006 tikka and found it had a fair bit of kick,... Maybe I should take my floral dress off and man up.

[North East]

2 MOA red dot.

[Grrzrr]

A 16.5 is a real blast to the face.

And the guy next to you

[chrispy88]

Don't mean to take off topic but can someone please explain the tape? Just to keep crud out of the bore while matching through the scrub?