Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

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Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by pucker » 09 Feb 2015, 9:57 am

Didn't want to hijack the other 22lr ammo topic so starting a new one.

What's the difference between copper jacketed ammo, copper plating and copper washing ammo?
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Re: Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by Guliver » 09 Feb 2015, 1:28 pm

IMO Would have been good to keep complementary topics in the one thread.
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Re: Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by Jack V » 09 Feb 2015, 3:29 pm

In one word 'Thickness " if referring only to the bullets outside covering material .

In more words , a copper jacket ( as in jacketed bullets ) which is not pure copper but gilding metal at about 95% copper and 5% zinc is a thick tube that encapsulates the core of a jacketed projectile . It can vary greatly in design and thickness and generally tapers in thickness getting thicker towards the base in hunting projectiles but may be parallel in thickness in some target bullets . Thickness can vary but is certainly much thicker and stronger than a plating process .

Plating would be an electrolytic process which can deposit metals as a layer over an object . Thickness will vary as to how thick you need and the time in the process . Typically thickness may only be a few thousandths of an inch to get the surface you want .

Copper wash is a chemical process possibly also having electrolysis in it of some kind but it's main difference is it's only a very thin deposit as the term "wash" kinda says .

I don't know of any plated projectiles in the true sense of the word off hand.
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Re: Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by pucker » 10 Feb 2015, 8:27 pm

Guliver wrote:IMO Would have been good to keep complementary topics in the one thread.


Just trying not to hijack.

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Re: Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by pucker » 10 Feb 2015, 8:28 pm

Jack V wrote:Copper wash is a chemical process possibly also having electrolysis in it of some kind but it's main difference is it's only a very thin deposit as the term "wash" kinda says .


So what's the point of the wash do you know?

Doesn't sound like it will keep a projectile together like a jacket...

Sounds kind of pointless.
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Post by yoshie » 10 Feb 2015, 11:11 pm

The copper acts as a barrier to the inner lead core and the barrel. When you fire a lead bullet above a certain speed, the lead melts and vaporizes and leaves deposits in the barrel causing lead build up. The copper (or guilding) has I higher melting temp and can be fired at higher velocities. All these types of adding copper to the outside of a lead bullet have varying effectiveness. Copper wash would be the easiest to apply and is used because it's cheap, a solid jacket is the most expensive but works the best.
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Re: Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by pucker » 11 Feb 2015, 1:09 pm

Great explanation.

Thanks Yoshie :thumbsup:
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Post by GLS_1956 » 16 Feb 2015, 10:06 am

Jack V wrote:In one word 'Thickness " if referring only to the bullets outside covering material .

In more words , a copper jacket ( as in jacketed bullets ) which is not pure copper but gilding metal at about 95% copper and 5% zinc is a thick tube that encapsulates the core of a jacketed projectile . It can vary greatly in design and thickness and generally tapers in thickness getting thicker towards the base in hunting projectiles but may be parallel in thickness in some target bullets . Thickness can vary but is certainly much thicker and stronger than a plating process .

Plating would be an electrolytic process which can deposit metals as a layer over an object . Thickness will vary as to how thick you need and the time in the process . Typically thickness may only be a few thousandths of an inch to get the surface you want .

Copper wash is a chemical process possibly also having electrolysis in it of some kind but it's main difference is it's only a very thin deposit as the term "wash" kinda says .

I don't know of any plated projectiles in the true sense of the word off hand.


You can get copper plated bird shot here in the USA.
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Re: Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by Mich » 17 Feb 2015, 8:49 pm

GLS_1956 wrote:You can get copper plated bird shot here in the USA.


Yep. Reduces pellet distortion on firing.
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Re: Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by Skadoo » 24 Feb 2015, 8:44 am

Mich wrote:Yep. Reduces pellet distortion on firing.


You used it Mich?

Does it really pattern that differently to normal shot?
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Re: Difference between copper jacket, plating and washing

Post by Mich » 24 Feb 2015, 8:57 am

I haven't used it, no.

Conventional shot has always worked perfectly fine, if it ain't broke?
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