The WSSM range of cartridges

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The WSSM range of cartridges

Post by bluerob » 02 Jun 2015, 12:16 pm

Did these ever become a popular round in Australia or was it primarily a U.S. thing? I don't remember hearing about them, but, living way out west, some visitors brought toys out that'd make us cry.

We only had .222's and shotguns.

They remind me of the old Soda Stream bottles.

I guess filling them with powder might've been a turn off?

Anyone use them as a target or F-Class?

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Post by tony m » 03 Nov 2015, 11:22 pm

We see these around here.I don't see an advantage and tend not to feed that well.Marketing stuff
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Post by Tinked » 04 Nov 2015, 11:11 am

Never "popular" anywhere as far as I know, not enough reason to start using a cartridge that's less available than it's "long" counterpart.

The idea (which you might know already) is that the shorter / wider powder column gives a more consistent burn so is good for accuracy. I'm not a serious competitor but the fact that they're not being used by many bench shooters shows there isn't much if anything to really be gained in this regard. If it worked in reality as good as the theory describes everyone would be shooting them.

Shorter bolt throw as well, pretty small factor on choosing a cartridge IMO though.
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Post by Baldrick314 » 04 Nov 2015, 12:23 pm

From what I've heard they're extremely hard on barrels. I got talking to a bloke who had one (not sure which just that it was a super short magnum) and he'd put about 800 rounds through and was saying he'd need to rebarrel soon
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Post by Elek » 12 Nov 2015, 9:45 am

Baldrick314 wrote:From what I've heard they're extremely hard on barrels. I got talking to a bloke who had one (not sure which just that it was a super short magnum) and he'd put about 800 rounds through and was saying he'd need to rebarrel soon


Tough to give that much credit (or discredit) without knowing the loads though.

Could have been shooting super hot loads for all you know?
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Post by Baldrick314 » 12 Nov 2015, 10:04 am

Elek wrote:Tough to give that much credit (or discredit) without knowing the loads though.

Could have been shooting super hot loads for all you know?


Oh absolutely. I would think that's kind of the point of these calibres though, to get big velocities out of relatively small cases you'd be running them reasonably hot.
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Post by Wobble » 13 Nov 2015, 9:02 am

I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone using one I don't think.

Never noticed brass on the bench etc.
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Post by ebr love » 17 Nov 2015, 9:20 am

Wobble wrote:Never noticed brass on the bench etc.


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Post by Xerox » 18 Nov 2015, 8:30 am

Tinked wrote:Shorter bolt throw as well, pretty small factor on choosing a cartridge IMO though.


The blokes talking about dangerous game love to go to the 'short bolt throw' argument.

If you're close enough to dangerous game that 1/2" bolt travel costs your life you're doing something stupid. It's not the bolts throw that's the problem.
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Post by Tinked » 24 Nov 2015, 9:38 am

Baldrick314 wrote:Oh absolutely. I would think that's kind of the point of these calibres though, to get big velocities out of relatively small cases you'd be running them reasonably hot.


They're not lacking velocity, that's for sure.

35gr .223 WSSM is pushing 4,500 fps
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Post by sandgroperbill » 24 Nov 2015, 12:00 pm

Personally, I don't see much point except for the fun factor of the super fast smaller Cal wssms, such as .223, but too hard on the barrel for me. WSSMs and RCMs might make a little more sense in the dangerous game calibers (no, not for the shorter bolt throw, I never understood how people could make this argument without breaking out in laughter), but perhaps the shorter action may reduce weight and improve balance, if only slightly, but hey, this might be enough to make the difference between a rifle that feels relatively comfortable and one that seems to fit just right. Also, barrel life wouldn't be as much of an issue as you wouldn't be running as many rounds through it as you would expect to run through smaller and medium bores. For most people, it may not make any difference, but some may see the advantage. Choice is good...
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Post by wrenchman » 24 Nov 2015, 12:14 pm

the 300 is kind of cought on a a little as being a hard hiting flat shooting round just like the rem ultra rounds they cost lots of money
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Post by BBJ » 24 Nov 2015, 12:26 pm

sandgroperbill wrote:WSSMs and RCMs might make a little more sense in the dangerous game calibers (no, not for the shorter bolt throw, I never understood how people could make this argument without breaking out in laughter)


Most people making the shorter throw arguments are forums jockeys for sure.

Lots of talk, no experience.
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