AusTac wrote:So fisherman have been/still are using lead sinkers for yonks and the waterways are full of lead, but hey it must be the shooters fault,our lead is so much worse -.-
Have to get the right gun i'm pretty sure to use steel shot, something to do with peening the chokes in if not
deadkitty wrote:I'm trying to find out if lead free projectiles are any good, given recent reports of lead levels in kids in N.T. apparently due to lead shot being used to bring down Magpie Geese, the locals are switching to steel shot. I've never seen lead free projectiles in Oz ...but then again, I wasn't looking. Anyone have first hand experience with them?, are they available as projectiles only? Any help appreciated. Cheers
AusTac wrote:
Have to get the right gun i'm pretty sure to use steel shot, something to do with peening the chokes in if not
deadkitty wrote:Thanks guys, that's a bit of info to work my way through, still looking for composite projectiles and any terminal ballistic data on them. Might have to search Californian gun stores. Cheers .
Gwion wrote:Brett... Seems Cutting Edge only do projies at .243 and up. Meplat have other options as well but none of them for smaller cals.
I like the look of these: http://www.meplat.com.au/index.php/onli ... rojectiles
But it says they are for subsonic performance... would they handle being pushed at normal speeds???
deadkitty wrote:Thanks guys, that's a bit of info to work my way through, still looking for composite projectiles and any terminal ballistic data on them. Might have to search Californian gun stores. Cheers .
deadkitty wrote:Thanks guys, that's a bit of info to work my way through, still looking for composite projectiles and any terminal ballistic data on them. Might have to search Californian gun stores. Cheers .
Gwion wrote:Copper Raptors in 60gn 224 but $2+ each!!!
Gwion wrote:I was looking at the 45gn for pest control. Normal 40-45gns are too short to seat right for my 223 and a copper bullet would be longer for the weight but at over $2 a pop, that's expensive pest control!!! Currently shooting bullets that cost me 22c each...
Gwion wrote:Yep, Zmax with trail boss is a cheap way to go and puts my 223 at about 1850fps with a 50gn. I was getting 2100 or just over with 40gn bullets but the seating depth gave irratic accuracy.
brett1868 wrote:I believe steel shot is mandatory for duck hunting in some states but you'd have to check the hunting regulations. I use a lot of brass VLD projectiles in the .416 Barrett that I got custom made for me by Eric at Woodleigh in Victoria. There's also a number of manufacturers doing CNC solid copper projectiles such as the Cutting Edge Copper Raptor range that come in .223 amongst other sizes. Daryl at Meplat Services imports the Cutting Edge range into Australia and he's a good guy to deal with. There are also some solid steel projectiles on the market but they are special use due to being hard on barrels.
deadkitty wrote:Gwion wrote:Yep, Zmax with trail boss is a cheap way to go and puts my 223 at about 1850fps with a 50gn. I was getting 2100 or just over with 40gn bullets but the seating depth gave irratic accuracy.
Are those the 50gr Zmax?, any ideas on what the maximum charge of Trail Boss is?, I have an awful lot of 50gr Zmax projectiles (bought while on special at Rebel sports) and bought a can of Trail Boss for sub sonic/ mild loads to reduce noise, it would be handy to have a practical useful load for the two of them. Cheers
darwindingo wrote:DK..I busted a tooth on steel shot once...
MR. WINCHESTER wrote:deadkitty wrote:Thanks guys, that's a bit of info to work my way through, still looking for composite projectiles and any terminal ballistic data on them. Might have to search Californian gun stores. Cheers .
REALLY ?
Californian ANYTHING, is probably the lowest common denominator .... unless one is a rampant Green / Greenie.
deadkitty wrote:Just a couple of questions on those brass projectiles Brett, given they are lighter did you notice higher initial velocities? did you get extra distance?. Is there anywhere I can find the load data for them? Thanks for the other info, I'll look up the Raptors. Cheers
deadkitty wrote:Yep that's me! the rampant greenie , also....California has mandatory lead free shooting areas, so I figured they would have info on lead free projectiles....... and somewhere they sell the composite ones Iḿ trying to find out about. Cheers
deadkitty wrote:Gwion wrote:Yep, Zmax with trail boss is a cheap way to go and puts my 223 at about 1850fps with a 50gn. I was getting 2100 or just over with 40gn bullets but the seating depth gave irratic accuracy.
Are those the 50gr Zmax?, any ideas on what the maximum charge of Trail Boss is?, I have an awful lot of 50gr Zmax projectiles (bought while on special at Rebel sports) and bought a can of Trail Boss for sub sonic/ mild loads to reduce noise, it would be handy to have a practical useful load for the two of them. Cheers
deadkitty wrote:Thanks Apollo, I'm aware of the Barnes projectiles, I was thinking more along the lines of the new composite bullets they use in California