Magnumitis.... why is it so?

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Re: Magnumitis.... why is it so?

Post by happyhunter » 18 Oct 2016, 2:01 pm

Although this thread has gone kind of off the rails, with graphics of skippies head with X marking the spot and all that, anybody who has shot a lot, and doesn't flinch, can take advantage of a magnums higher muzzle velocity. less wind drift, flatter trajectory. Better metallurgy means barrel life is not an issue like it was in the past. If you hand load. expense is no longer an issue. If people are gonna argue you don't need the power, then why not apply that nagging bitchiness to fast cars and motorbikes, I mean, why don't we all drive a Prius or step thru scooters?

My personal preference is the plain old 308 Winchester and I'm considering going to 7mm08, but for the guys that shoot the 300s and 338 magnums I'm all for that too. One day I might just get me a 338RUM just for the gongs.
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Re: Magnumitis.... why is it so?

Post by bigfellascott » 18 Oct 2016, 2:28 pm

happyhunter wrote:Although this thread has gone kind of off the rails, with graphics of skippies head with X marking the spot and all that, anybody who has shot a lot, and doesn't flinch, can take advantage of a magnums higher muzzle velocity. less wind drift, flatter trajectory. Better metallurgy means barrel life is not an issue like it was in the past. If you hand load. expense is no longer an issue. If people are gonna argue you don't need the power, then why not apply that nagging bitchiness to fast cars and motorbikes, I mean, why don't we all drive a Prius or step thru scooters?

My personal preference is the plain old 308 Winchester and I'm considering going to 7mm08, but for the guys that shoot the 300s and 338 magnums I'm all for that too. One day I might just get me a 338RUM just for the gongs.


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Post by bladeracer » 18 Oct 2016, 2:30 pm

happyhunter wrote:Although this thread has gone kind of off the rails, with graphics of skippies head with X marking the spot and all that, anybody who has shot a lot, and doesn't flinch, can take advantage of a magnums higher muzzle velocity. less wind drift, flatter trajectory. Better metallurgy means barrel life is not an issue like it was in the past. If you hand load. expense is no longer an issue. If people are gonna argue you don't need the power, then why not apply that nagging bitchiness to fast cars and motorbikes, I mean, why don't we all drive a Prius or step thru scooters?

My personal preference is the plain old 308 Winchester and I'm considering going to 7mm08, but for the guys that shoot the 300s and 338 magnums I'm all for that too. One day I might just get me a 338RUM just for the gongs.



Did you read the garbage MRWinchester "contributed" to this thread?
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Re: Magnumitis.... why is it so?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 18 Oct 2016, 2:34 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:Iv'e only got one mate who actually shot loads of Buffalo in the NT

His callable of choice was a .338 Win Mag


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Post by brett1868 » 18 Oct 2016, 2:58 pm

G mate....Oldbloke started the path to the gutter by boasting about his massive manhood, I just help with directions :)
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Post by brett1868 » 18 Oct 2016, 2:59 pm

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Re: Magnumitis.... why is it so?

Post by Tripod » 18 Oct 2016, 3:00 pm

<<Genesis93>> wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:Iv'e only got one mate who actually shot loads of Buffalo in the NT

His callable of choice was a .338 Win Mag


Nah, do it with style, a 500 Nitro Express

That might be doing it with style but if you're after power go for the 500 A-Square
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Re: Magnumitis.... why is it so?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 18 Oct 2016, 3:13 pm

Tripod wrote:
<<Genesis93>> wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:Iv'e only got one mate who actually shot loads of Buffalo in the NT

His callable of choice was a .338 Win Mag


Nah, do it with style, a 500 Nitro Express

That might be doing it with style but if you're after power go for the 500 A-Square


five hundred Aye skwair.... just sounds wrong in a Holland double...

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We... are shooting the Nitro Express chaps.... thats better :)
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 18 Oct 2016, 3:14 pm

brett1868 wrote:G mate....Oldbloke started the path to the gutter by boasting about his massive manhood, I just help with directions :)


I missed that part.... switched off after the initial love-fest, so I'll have to go back and revise
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Re: Magnumitis.... why is it so?

Post by darwindingo » 18 Oct 2016, 4:13 pm

<<Genesis93>> wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:Iv'e only got one mate who actually shot loads of Buffalo in the NT

His callable of choice was a .338 Win Mag


Nah, do it with style, a 500 Nitro Express


This would be the go :thumbsup: :drinks: I want one... :D So I can finally understand this flinching and kicks to hard stuff :lol:

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Post by bigfellascott » 18 Oct 2016, 4:52 pm

<<Genesis93>> wrote:
Tripod wrote:
<<Genesis93>> wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:Iv'e only got one mate who actually shot loads of Buffalo in the NT

His callable of choice was a .338 Win Mag


Nah, do it with style, a 500 Nitro Express

That might be doing it with style but if you're after power go for the 500 A-Square


five hundred Aye skwair.... just sounds wrong in a Holland double...

Image

We... are shooting the Nitro Express chaps.... thats better :)


Like goin shooting with a Mona Lisa under ya arm, absolutely beautiful no doubt about it. :thumbsup:
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Post by darwindingo » 18 Oct 2016, 5:01 pm

The wood grain on the Holland just pops and is bloody beautiful Gen... Bloody sexy all round really ! Gun Porn :thumbsup:

Time to go and polish my barrel ;)

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Re: Magnumitis.... why is it so?

Post by Oldbloke » 18 Oct 2016, 5:53 pm

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Must be true what they say about going down on grandma being like pulling a cheese sandwich apart :allegedly:


I need to bring this thread back o n track.
I would just like to remind u blokes that I'm in the best position to comment about the more more mature of us and our depraved activities.
As Im the most experienced and most mature I would like to remind you all that whether, white, black, Yellow, young or mature, all women are pink inside and wet when it's needed. And that's what counts.
Now if you have a dick as big, hard and fast as mine all you would need for all the shootable game and pests in the land is a 22rf or a pocket knife.

And as Brett mentioned earlier if you want to see a live porn show just visit the local elderly home.
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 18 Oct 2016, 6:56 pm

You're just lucky, you dirty old fart, that the mods/admin only check in every week or so.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by brett1868 » 18 Oct 2016, 7:10 pm

Maybe Oldbloke's changed his meds as I don't remember him ever being this funny, cracked me up a couple times today.
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Post by Oldbloke » 18 Oct 2016, 7:26 pm

brett1868 wrote:Maybe Oldbloke's changed his meds as I don't remember him ever being this funny, cracked me up a couple times today.


Its the extra strong stout. Puts you in a jolly mood and extra lead in the pencil. Oops I mean big dick. :drinks:
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Post by darwindingo » 18 Oct 2016, 7:45 pm

Sounds like a good brew OB... You're on fire.. Are you wearing the gimp mask ? :lol:

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Post by Oldbloke » 18 Oct 2016, 7:50 pm

No, not tonight. The gimp mask is strictly Saturday nights only.

PS. Sounds like you young blokes need to start drinking stout. :thumbsup:
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Post by Ar50a1 » 18 Oct 2016, 7:55 pm

A magnum cartridge is generally an improved version of a existing cartridge not rocket science if you need more power without going up in caliber use a magnum! For those that think a magnum is just for a pissing competition go hunting in NSW national parks and see how long it is before you are wearing handcuffs as it is absolutely illegal to take a headshot and the animal welfare act is very clear about required energy for humanely dispatching feral animals 4500 ftlbs is the minimum required for aisian buff so anyone bragging about using a old 303 may want to discontinue this as is prosecutable
BTW hydrostatic shock is not achieved unless the projectile impacts at above 2600 fps!
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Post by GLS_1956 » 18 Oct 2016, 7:58 pm

Magnumitis. Yup we got a lot of that here in the States, we have automobile manufacturers who sell cars and trucks, pick-up trucks, with engines developing close to 900 hp and that will reach 150 mph while the maximum speed that I know about on highways is 80 mph, but they sell a sh*t-pot full of them.

When it comes to guns and the ammo we have more choices out there than we can shake a stick at. For a large number of people it is ego, read penis extension, for some it is using more energy to make up for poorer bullet placement. One hunter I know used a 300WM for elk, wapiti, hunting in mountainous Colorado where his shots may be anywhere from 100 yards to 600 yards, since he never knew the distance his shot would be he took a gun/cartridge combo that would work at the maximum distance, this makes sense to me, he no longer goes out of state to hunt and has bought a rifle in 260Remington for deer.

Personally I have 8 guns chambered for magnum cartridges, 1 in 357Mag, 2 in 22WRM, 2 in 44Mag, 2 in 12gauge Magnum, and 1 in 20 gauge Magnum. My other guns are non-magnums.
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Post by darwindingo » 18 Oct 2016, 9:03 pm

Oldbloke wrote:No, not tonight. The gimp mask is strictly Saturday nights only.

PS. Sounds like you young blokes need to start drinking stout. :thumbsup:


Young bloke :thumbsup: , I like the sound of that OB... According to my nieces and nephews I'm old and crusty or something... :lol:

I like stout btw... you made yours sound strong... I was going to put in an offer to be a brew testing Dingo... :lol:

Also, at least ya missus is getting sat night fun :lol:

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Post by MalleeFarmer » 19 Oct 2016, 1:26 pm

Mmm.... Stout.... way ahead of ya!
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Post by brett1868 » 19 Oct 2016, 1:30 pm

So long as it's not Cooper's Stout or you risk a case of Cooper's Droop :)
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Post by Tripod » 19 Oct 2016, 1:34 pm

Ar50a1 wrote:A magnum cartridge is generally an improved version of a existing cartridge not rocket science if you need more power without going up in caliber use a magnum! For those that think a magnum is just for a pissing competition go hunting in NSW national parks and see how long it is before you are wearing handcuffs as it is absolutely illegal to take a headshot and the animal welfare act is very clear about required energy for humanely dispatching feral animals 4500 ftlbs is the minimum required for aisian buff so anyone bragging about using a old 303 may want to discontinue this as is prosecutable
BTW hydrostatic shock is not achieved unless the projectile impacts at above 2600 fps!

bulls**t!
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Post by Gwion » 19 Oct 2016, 3:56 pm

Tripod wrote:
Ar50a1 wrote:A magnum cartridge is generally an improved version of a existing cartridge not rocket science if you need more power without going up in caliber use a magnum! For those that think a magnum is just for a pissing competition go hunting in NSW national parks and see how long it is before you are wearing handcuffs as it is absolutely illegal to take a headshot and the animal welfare act is very clear about required energy for humanely dispatching feral animals 4500 ftlbs is the minimum required for aisian buff so anyone bragging about using a old 303 may want to discontinue this as is prosecutable
BTW hydrostatic shock is not achieved unless the projectile impacts at above 2600 fps!


bulls**t!


Which part are you calling BS on???

I personally find it hard to believe that a head shot is illegal!??! :wtf: :unknown: :huh:
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Post by Chronos » 19 Oct 2016, 3:57 pm

Ar50a1 wrote:A magnum cartridge is generally an improved version of a existing cartridge not rocket science if you need more power without going up in caliber use a magnum! For those that think a magnum is just for a pissing competition go hunting in NSW national parks and see how long it is before you are wearing handcuffs as it is absolutely illegal to take a headshot and the animal welfare act is very clear about required energy for humanely dispatching feral animals 4500 ftlbs is the minimum required for aisian buff so anyone bragging about using a old 303 may want to discontinue this as is prosecutable
BTW hydrostatic shock is not achieved unless the projectile impacts at above 2600 fps!

"
I'd like to see the legislation that says " it is absolutely illegal to take a headshot" and " the animal welfare act is very clear about required energy for humanely dispatching feral animals 4500 ftlbs is the minimum required for aisian buff" because it sounds like you pulled that from some government contract shooting handbook and is totally non applicable to sporting shooters

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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 19 Oct 2016, 4:40 pm

Tripod wrote:
Ar50a1 wrote:A magnum cartridge is generally an improved version of a existing cartridge not rocket science if you need more power without going up in caliber use a magnum! For those that think a magnum is just for a pissing competition go hunting in NSW national parks and see how long it is before you are wearing handcuffs as it is absolutely illegal to take a headshot and the animal welfare act is very clear about required energy for humanely dispatching feral animals 4500 ftlbs is the minimum required for aisian buff so anyone bragging about using a old 303 may want to discontinue this as is prosecutable
BTW hydrostatic shock is not achieved unless the projectile impacts at above 2600 fps!

bulls**t!


Whats a bit of bulls**t between friends.....

I dont think there are ANY cartidges with Magnum in the name that are improved, most of the old skool magnums are based on a Magnum - 375 H&H Mag., original short mag family, 300winMag family, original long mags 416, 8mm etc, modern Short Mags, modern super short mags....

The word was adopted as a marketing term, like a Champagne magnum to give the impression of something really big and impressive, powerful... or was it after Magnum P.I. because theyre trying to emulate his 'coolness'.... :unknown: :lol:


Full list of commercial mags (some very recent additions may be missing)
505 Mag. Gibbs
500 S&W Mag.
465 H&H Belt. Mag.
45-70 Elko Mag.
458 Win. Mag.
460 Weath. Mag.
460 S&W Mag.
45 Win. Mag.
44 Rem. Mag.
416 Weath. Mag.
416 Rem. Mag.
400 H&H Belt. Mag.
450/400 Mag. N.E. 3"1/4
41 Rem. Mag.
375 Rem. Ultra Mag.
375 H&H Mag.
378 Weath. Mag.
375 Weath. Mag.
375 Fl. Mag. N.E.
358 Norma Mag.
350 Rem. Mag.
357 Auto Mag.
357 Magnum
350 Mag. Rigby
338 Win. Short Mag.
338 Lapua Mag.
338 Win. Mag.
338-378 Weath. Mag.
338 Norma Magnum
338 Rem. Ultra Mag.
340 Weath. Mag.
8 mm Rem. Mag.
32 H&R Mag.
300 Lapua Mag.
300 Rem. Ultra Mag.
300 Win. Mag.
300 H&H Mag.
308 Norma Mag.
300 Win. Short Mag.
300 Rem. SA Ultra Mag.
30-378 Weath. Mag.
300 Norma Magnum
300 Weath. Mag.
7 mm Rem. Ultra Mag.
7 mm Win. Short Mag.
7 mm Rem. Mag.
7 mm Rem. SA Ultra Mag.
7 mm Weath. Mag.
7mm Mag. Fl. H&H
270 Win. Short Mag.
270 Weath. Mag.
264 Win. Mag.
256 Mag. Gibbs
6,5 mm Rem. Mag.
6,5 x 63 Messner Mag.
257 Weath. Mag.
25 Win. SSM
256 Win. Mag.
244 H&H Mag.
240 Weath. Mag.
243 Win. Super Short Mag.
223 Win. Super Short Mag.
224 Weath. Mag.
5,6 x 50 R Mag.
5,6 x 50 Mag.
222 Rem. Mag.
22 Win. Mag. R.F.
22 Rem. Jet Mag.
5 mm Rem. Mag.


Our friend may be confusing just plain 'improved' cartridges...

Mags are fun to shoot.... and fun to watch your mates shoot :lol: especially a decent thumper...in a really light rifle

oh... the give away that its a smidge bs'y, is that our laws wouldnt use the language we dumped half a century ago... plus our lawmakers arent that switched on to use the 'energy' thingy.... that would be in Joules :thumbsup:
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Re: Magnumitis.... why is it so?

Post by Tripod » 19 Oct 2016, 4:40 pm

Gwion wrote:
Tripod wrote:
Ar50a1 wrote:A magnum cartridge is generally an improved version of a existing cartridge not rocket science if you need more power without going up in caliber use a magnum! For those that think a magnum is just for a pissing competition go hunting in NSW national parks and see how long it is before you are wearing handcuffs as it is absolutely illegal to take a headshot and the animal welfare act is very clear about required energy for humanely dispatching feral animals 4500 ftlbs is the minimum required for aisian buff so anyone bragging about using a old 303 may want to discontinue this as is prosecutable
BTW hydrostatic shock is not achieved unless the projectile impacts at above 2600 fps!


bulls**t!


Which part are you calling BS on???

I personally find it hard to believe that a head shot is illegal!??! :wtf: :unknown: :huh:

Everything except the first sentence.
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Post by brett1868 » 19 Oct 2016, 5:14 pm

G, isn't the .357 Magnum and improved version of the 38 Special created by S&W in the 30's and is credited as "Starting" the magnum era of handgun ammo or have I missed something? This whole magnum non magnum argument means little to me as it has no input on my buying decisions.
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 19 Oct 2016, 5:27 pm

brett1868 wrote:G, isn't the .357 Magnum and improved version of the 38 Special created by S&W in the 30's and is credited as "Starting" the magnum era of handgun ammo or have I missed something? This whole magnum non magnum argument means little to me as it has no input on my buying decisions.


Don't destroy a totally plausible argument ;) ....the 357Mag is the 'extended' Special case.... but they stole the Magnum term from the Brits who had used the Magnum term since before 1900, also the 'Express' (like an Express train).... its all in the name...
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