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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by happyhunter » 26 Oct 2015, 11:38 pm

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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by brett1868 » 27 Oct 2015, 12:08 am

About the same diameter as a 250ml Twist Top beer bottle, I found that out when I ran out of oranges.... :)
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by Gwion » 27 Oct 2015, 6:34 am

happyhunter wrote:What caibre is an orange cannon?


I think the standard is 90mm, although they are sometimes offered in 75mm. :lol:
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 27 Oct 2015, 6:44 am

The big game version for grapefruit... :D
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by VICHunter » 28 Oct 2015, 12:52 pm

brett1868 wrote:About the same diameter as a 250ml Twist Top beer bottle, I found that out when I ran out of oranges.... :)


:allegedly: ;)
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Re: Most powerful rifle round legal in Australia

Post by Die Judicii » 14 Nov 2015, 12:43 am

Harper wrote:
Lorgar wrote:
John445 wrote:But from what I've read a lot of people have been rejected saying that target shooting or hunting isn't sufficient reason for that calibre specifically. 338 mag is about the limit that everyone can readily get, with little/no questions asked.


Yet if you apply for a 338 Lapua Mag you'll likely get shut down :roll:


I havnt read all comments on all these pages, so in relation to "Harpers" comment I cant help but wonder about the venerable yet humble old .375 H+H Mag.

Its not all that much different in performance,,,,, and an awful lot of people in Aus have got them with little problems.

338 Lapua Mag > 2,655 fps and 4696 ft/lbs
.375 H+H Mag > 2,645 fps and 4661 ft/lbs
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by Die Judicii » 14 Nov 2015, 12:55 am

<<Genesis93>> wrote:The big game version for grapefruit... :D


Nah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "WATERMELON" and the seeded variety for added schrapnel effect :lol: :thumbsup:
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Re: Most powerful rifle round legal in Australia

Post by happyhunter » 14 Nov 2015, 10:32 am

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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by happyhunter » 14 Nov 2015, 10:33 am

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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 14 Nov 2015, 11:06 am

It is...... :thumbsup:

This is the offical ADI isting of the top 100 loads, sorted by Muzzle energy,
(same bullet mass, different velocity would be different brand of bullet or different powder type)
Note there may be other commercial big-bangers not covered by ADI....;


ADI loads gr vel E(ftlb)
50 Browning Machine Gun 655 3029 13346
50 Browning Machine Gun 800 2725 13193
50 Browning Machine Gun 750 2800 13058
460 Weatherby Magnum 600 2457 8044
460 Weatherby Magnum 600 2439 7927
460 Weatherby Magnum 500 2508 6985
460 Weatherby Magnum 500 2478 6818
460 Weatherby Magnum 500 2469 6769
416 Weatherby Magnum 350 2891 6497
416 Weatherby Magnum 400 2703 6490
416 Weatherby Magnum 400 2687 6414
416 Weatherby Magnum 300 3051 6202
460 Weatherby Magnum 400 2610 6051
460 Weatherby Magnum 400 2589 5954
460 Weatherby Magnum 350 2760 5921
470 Nitro Express 500 2300 5874
500 Jeffery 500 2300 5874
460 Weatherby Magnum 400 2565 5845
500 CYRUS 500 2291 5828
460 Weatherby Magnum 350 2737 5823
378 Weatherby Magnum 270 3102 5770
378 Weatherby Magnum 300 2940 5759
378 Weatherby Magnum 270 3091 5729
378 Weatherby Magnum 300 2926 5704
500 CYRUS 500 2251 5626
500 CYRUS 500 2250 5621
470 Nitro Express 500 2247 5606
500 CYRUS 500 2242 5582
460 Weatherby Magnum 350 2678 5574
500 CYRUS 400 2501 5557
470 Nitro Express 500 2234 5542
500 CYRUS 350 2654 5475
500 CYRUS 350 2653 5471
378 Weatherby Magnum 235 3224 5425
416 Rigby 350 2641 5422
416 Rigby 400 2470 5420
500 CYRUS 400 2470 5420
470 Nitro Express 500 2202 5384
416 Rigby 400 2456 5358
500 CYRUS 325 2724 5356
500 CYRUS 400 2455 5354
378 Weatherby Magnum 235 3202 5351
500 CYRUS 350 2623 5348
500 CYRUS 325 2722 5348
416 Remington Magnum 350 2622 5344
500 CYRUS 325 2720 5340
458 Winchester Magnum 500 2185 5301
375 Rem.U.M. 250 3090 5301
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 215 3331 5298
416 Rigby 350 2609 5291
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 300 2818 5291
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 210 3362 5271
416 Remington Magnum 350 2601 5259
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 225 3244 5258
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 275 2934 5257
416 Rigby 400 2432 5254
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 250 3072 5240
375 Rem.U.M. 235 3163 5221
458 Winchester Magnum 350 2589 5210
416 Weatherby Magnum 400 2419 5198
458 Winchester Magnum 300 2793 5197
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 265 2970 5191
458 Winchester Magnum 500 2161 5186
375 Rem.U.M. 225 3214 5162
375 Rem.U.M. 270 2932 5155
416 Remington Magnum 400 2407 5147
458 Winchester Magnum 400 2407 5147
416 Remington Magnum 300 2779 5145
458 Winchester Magnum 500 2152 5142
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 200 3400 5135
416 Rigby 300 2776 5134
450 Nitro Express 500 2150 5133
450 Nitro Express 500 2150 5133
375 Rem.U.M. 270 2922 5120
416 Rigby 325 2660 5107
416 Remington Magnum 400 2395 5095
375 Rem.U.M. 285 2836 5091
458 Winchester Magnum 500 2140 5085
416 Remington Magnum 400 2391 5078
375 Rem.U.M. 285 2830 5069
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 265 2932 5059
416 Remington Magnum 350 2551 5058
416 Rigby 350 2551 5058
375 Rem.U.M. 210 3293 5057
500 CYRUS 400 2386 5057
375 Rem.U.M. 235 3111 5051
458 Winchester Magnum 300 2753 5050
458 Winchester Magnum 350 2548 5046
375 Rem.U.M. 250 3010 5030
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 300 2747 5028
416 Remington Magnum 300 2745 5020
458 Winchester Magnum 500 2123 5005
50-140 Sharps 515 2091 5001
416 Rigby 325 2631 4996
458 Winchester Magnum 450 2235 4992
375 Rem.U.M. 210 3271 4990
50-140 Sharps 515 2088 4986
338-378 Weatherby Magnum 200 3350 4985
375 Rem.U.M. 300 2733 4976
375 Rem.U.M. 260 2935 4974
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 14 Nov 2015, 11:09 am

375H&H comes in at 168.....
338La-pooa at 160, but no.1 on the police radar.....whatever....
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by happyhunter » 15 Nov 2015, 8:27 am

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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 15 Nov 2015, 5:59 pm

Gimee the webbery over the la-pooa any day of the week, just dont let on the to the po-po that its got the edge and more....
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by brett1868 » 16 Nov 2015, 5:25 am

Lucky the .375 Cheytac & .416 Barrett are "Wildcats" currently flying under the radar. Both of these rounds are better then just about everything on the list for long range hits. Not to forget some of the edge variations of .338 & .375 which are also better then most on the list.
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by happyhunter » 16 Nov 2015, 6:17 pm

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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by brett1868 » 17 Nov 2015, 8:08 pm

Some of the regs that ban the 50BMG state ..and it's derivatives


Yep...the .416 is a derivative unfortunately and one of my favourite rounds. At least they haven't got the Cheytac rounds in their sights.....yet.
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by VICHunter » 18 Nov 2015, 12:44 pm

They'll have a go at it eventually :problem:
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by Ghosttransit » 08 Jun 2016, 8:10 pm

Does anyone know whether we get Wilson Combat super sniper .308 in austrailia yet
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by rodgeydodge » 22 Mar 2017, 12:37 am

There are plenty of big calibre rifles available in Australia.
God knows why anyone would want a 50BMG rifle - the weight and cost are both prohibitive and the ammo costs a bomb.
Some big calibres available include 375 Holland and Holland, 458 Winchester Magnum, 470 Weatherby Magnum (if you like pain), 416 Rigby and so on.
None are of any use for the hunter in Australia, unless you come across Tyrannosaurus Pig.
Maybe the 375 and the 458 for Buffalo in NT.
The other problem you will have is getting permission to use them at a registered range. I know the 338 Lapua can't be used on any range I am aware of.
SSAA has a "Big Game" match and guys bring big stuff to that - 470 Nitro plus, so maybe there.
A 30 calibre rifle will be an accurate shoot and if used for hunting, will bring down anything you are likely to meet out there.
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by Heckler303 » 23 Mar 2017, 4:23 pm

rodgeydodge wrote:God knows why anyone would want a 50BMG rifle - the weight and cost are both prohibitive and the ammo costs a bomb.
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Owning a 'Fiddy cal' is like owning a lambo or a buggati. They have a big cult following as the 'cool' thing that every kid who has played COD knows about, and if you were to have one, you'd be the envy of all your mates.

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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 23 Mar 2017, 6:20 pm

rodgeydodge wrote: God knows why anyone would want a 50BMG rifle.....


Probably (he knows everything!) :P
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by brett1868 » 23 Mar 2017, 9:12 pm

rodgeydodge wrote:There are plenty of big calibre rifles available in Australia.
God knows why anyone would want a 50BMG rifle - the weight and cost are both prohibitive and the ammo costs a bomb.
Some big calibres available include 375 Holland and Holland, 458 Winchester Magnum, 470 Weatherby Magnum (if you like pain), 416 Rigby and so on.
None are of any use for the hunter in Australia, unless you come across Tyrannosaurus Pig.
Maybe the 375 and the 458 for Buffalo in NT.
The other problem you will have is getting permission to use them at a registered range. I know the 338 Lapua can't be used on any range I am aware of.
SSAA has a "Big Game" match and guys bring big stuff to that - 470 Nitro plus, so maybe there.
A 30 calibre rifle will be an accurate shoot and if used for hunting, will bring down anything you are likely to meet out there.


If your god doesn't know why then refer him to me and I'll explain it to them :D

As a first post, to deride the caliber choices of others is never a good way to make a first impression. Maybe a few lines about what you shoot, how long you're been shooting and where your interests are would make for a better first post.
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by duncan61 » 23 Mar 2017, 11:28 pm

Brett this is your hobby and I am enjoying watching the progress.I would love to go to the N.T. and watch you belt an old buffalo bull at 1000m plus.Bugger that getting up close stuff.I am going to google the ballistics right now
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by Cryptic » 24 Mar 2017, 12:06 am

bentaz wrote:
rodgeydodge wrote:There are plenty of big calibre rifles available in Australia.
God knows why anyone would want a 50BMG rifle - the weight and cost are both prohibitive and the ammo costs a bomb.
Some big calibres available include 375 Holland and Holland, 458 Winchester Magnum, 470 Weatherby Magnum (if you like pain), 416 Rigby and so on.
None are of any use for the hunter in Australia, unless you come across Tyrannosaurus Pig.
Maybe the 375 and the 458 for Buffalo in NT.
The other problem you will have is getting permission to use them at a registered range. I know the 338 Lapua can't be used on any range I am aware of.
SSAA has a "Big Game" match and guys bring big stuff to that - 470 Nitro plus, so maybe there.
A 30 calibre rifle will be an accurate shoot and if used for hunting, will bring down anything you are likely to meet out there.

Ive seen some pretty big rabbits, some of them were a fair way off too!


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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by Gamerancher » 24 Mar 2017, 7:16 am

Gee, I dunno Brett, ol' mate rodneydodge sounds like he knows everything. We all should just sit back, stop typing and prepare to be "educated". :sarcasm:
By the way I know of a couple of ranges that do allow .338 Lapua.
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by colinbentley » 11 Apr 2017, 9:21 am

I was at the Mildura range at Cardross on Monday, which is a SSAA range, and there was a shooter there with a 50mm.I was several benches away but even with ear protection the noise was horrendous. He was shooting 600 metres. he told me a round cost about $10......ouch !I guess if you're preparing for world war 3 then this is a perfect calibre. But the cost of ammo is a bit rich for my blood.
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by bladeracer » 11 Apr 2017, 9:33 am

colinbentley wrote:I was at the Mildura range at Cardross on Monday, which is a SSAA range, and there was a shooter there with a 50mm.I was several benches away but even with ear protection the noise was horrendous. He was shooting 600 metres. he told me a round cost about $10......ouch !I guess if you're preparing for world war 3 then this is a perfect calibre. But the cost of ammo is a bit rich for my blood.



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50mm would have wheels on it ;-)
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by brett1868 » 11 Apr 2017, 10:35 am

colinbentley wrote:I was at the Mildura range at Cardross on Monday, which is a SSAA range, and there was a shooter there with a 50mm.I was several benches away but even with ear protection the noise was horrendous. He was shooting 600 metres. he told me a round cost about $10......ouch !I guess if you're preparing for world war 3 then this is a perfect calibre. But the cost of ammo is a bit rich for my blood.


I was at the same range March 31 / April 1 for the FCSA competition, possibly it was either Paul or Luke you bumped into on Monday as they are locals. The target would have been at 600 yards as that's the distance used for the competitions. To the left of the backstop they sometimes hang pig shaped gong, with the right shot placement you can knock it flying with a 50. Even at 650yds the 798gr CE coppers I use are traveling at 2129fps with 8034ft-lbs of energy and take .82 sec to hit.
August 4-6 will be the LRSC Australian titles that'll have a FCSA 50BMG 600yd match on Saturday and an open caliber 600yd match on the Sunday. I believe there will be a contingent of Americans coming down to compete in the 50BMG event so I'll need to step up my game to beat them. If you can get there then make yourself known to me and I'll get you some shots from a 50. I'll be easy to spot, short, round with a gun so big it comes in a coffin sized case :)
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by Oldbloke » 11 Apr 2017, 5:29 pm

I think less than 1% of shooters would have a use for .50 calibre rifle. But if they want to shoot at targets 600 yards away at $10 a shot good luck to them if that floats their boats. Not doing anyone any harm.
Personally not my cup of tea and way too costly for me. I'll stick to my casual hunting.
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Re: Largest legal calibre here in Aus?

Post by Bigjobss » 11 Apr 2017, 8:07 pm

I used to have a Chevy C10 with a worked 454, thing did quaters around 11seconds if you could keep it straight, didn't NEED it but it was fun. I would own a .50 if I had a big property, I like things that make me smile, strange I know.
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