7.62 x 54R???

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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by juststarting » 28 Jan 2017, 2:26 pm

bladeracer wrote: I would expect even a shotgun with slugs and sights should be able to hit it more times than it misses..


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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by Bushie » 28 Jan 2017, 2:43 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Bushie wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pbquj-6MVc

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a one in a million Mosin that is actually accurate but this one is incredible



Incredible?
Have you done much shooting yet?


Nah I've shot a little like couple guns in other countries and some shotguns here but still very new to all of it, I just figured a 100 something year old rifle that was mass produced as much as the Russians do hitting 200+ yrd targets was impressive is all!
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by bladeracer » 28 Jan 2017, 2:47 pm

Bushie wrote:Nah I've shot a little like couple guns in other countries and some shotguns here but still very new to all of it, I just figured a 100 something year old rifle that was mass produced as much as the Russians do hitting 200+ yrd targets was impressive is all!



I get you :-)
What area are you in?
I'm down in Gippsland, couple hours East of Melbs.
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by Bushie » 28 Jan 2017, 3:16 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Bushie wrote:Nah I've shot a little like couple guns in other countries and some shotguns here but still very new to all of it, I just figured a 100 something year old rifle that was mass produced as much as the Russians do hitting 200+ yrd targets was impressive is all!



I get you :-)
What area are you in?
I'm down in Gippsland, couple hours East of Melbs.


I'm on the other side of the state, 40 minutes west of the city in Melton, right near Bacchus Marsh
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by bladeracer » 28 Jan 2017, 4:05 pm

Bushie wrote:I'm on the other side of the state, 40 minutes west of the city in Melton, right near Bacchus Marsh


Bugger - thought we might manage to let you shoot my stuff :-)
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by Bushie » 28 Jan 2017, 4:17 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Bushie wrote:I'm on the other side of the state, 40 minutes west of the city in Melton, right near Bacchus Marsh


Bugger - thought we might manage to let you shoot my stuff :-)


Argh damn, would have loved that
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by Supaduke » 28 Jan 2017, 7:48 pm

You don't buy milsurps for accuracy. You by them for the history, the stories they carry. It's like comparing a 57 Chevy to a new commodore.
In 50 years the Chevy will still be cool.

The challenge of getting Milsurps to shoot accurately is second to none. Any punter can plop a modern rifle on the bench and drill sub MoA groups. Getting decent groups with a 70+ year old rifle with iron sights is a rewarding experience.

Collecting and shooting Milsurps is for the love of shooting and admiring old guns. If you want a tack driver, buy a modern sporting rifle.

Milsurps and Blackpowder rifles are for people who just 'get it'. They are cool, what other reason do you need?

And for the record, I am in the camp of not scoping milsurp rifles. But I understand why some do, especially older chaps with failing eyesight.

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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by Bushie » 28 Jan 2017, 7:54 pm

Beautiful rifles Supaduke, every time I see an old rifle I always wonder what it's seen and where its been, love the history!
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by juststarting » 28 Jan 2017, 8:36 pm

Seriously, this is not going to end well for my wallet!
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by No1Mk3 » 28 Jan 2017, 8:38 pm

All those who think Nagants can't shoot, have never really tried. A fellow club member, using a M44 and surplus ammo, left all the Mauser fanboys, K98k, M38, M96, 1895 etc for dead at 300m at Little River. To rub salt in the wound, another member using a Berthier 1915 flogged them as well. The Trigger Nut determines accuracy in many cases.

Addendum: I would never consider any of my Mosin Nagants over my K31 for serious comp, but do sometimes use an M96.
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by juststarting » 28 Jan 2017, 8:45 pm

...and do your research, because this joker is selling 91/30, but this is clearly not a 91/30.

http://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/44752 ... 2x54r.html

Learn about it, markings, significance of production year, etc.
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by Bushie » 28 Jan 2017, 10:50 pm

juststarting wrote:...and do your research, because this joker is selling 91/30, but this is clearly not a 91/30.

http://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/44752 ... 2x54r.html

Learn about it, markings, significance of production year, etc.


That's an m44 right?
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Re: 7.62 x 54R???

Post by juststarting » 29 Jan 2017, 11:11 pm

Looks that way.
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