Cooper wrote:I only just worked out you get an extra case (1 extra piece of brass) per pack of Norma brass. Only had three packets to check and were 100 packs. Maybe it's different for 50 packs. But now I have 101 pieces to fit in my 100 ammo case.
sungazer wrote:if you are using the brass in the same rifle and only neck size, there are some very knowledgeable people who say annealing is not required. Then there are other that would say for the same parameters that every 3-5 firings and annealing should be done. Then there are others that have expensive machines that they are either selling or those that have bought them and they would say after every firing.
sungazer wrote:I know the process and like I say some very knowledgeable people including at least 1 long time gun smith to the precision shooters industry read benchrest and F class would disagree. I am only passing on information no need to try and argue the point with me. In fact this topic was recently brought up on ozFclass so have a look over there and you can argue with some of the countries top shooters.
In my custom guns the amount the neck size changes is next to negligible. There is no feel when resizing and I often wonder if it has changed. The neck opens only enough to release the projectile.
Gwion wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that a direct swap over load will no longer shoot the 1/2MOA you are currently getting. Might still be under a minute but I'd say there will be a difference. Depends how fussy you want to be. I can get very fussy indeed!
grandadbushy wrote:So boys back to the question to anneal or not to and how often ?
I'm not a benchrest shooter so that doesn't come into my question
All my rifles are standard not custom
grandadbushy wrote:Marksman what type of loads are you putting in them are they light or hot ?
I run 1gr over max in the adi book But will keep an eye on it
Thanks
grandadbushy wrote:N0 marksman you're probably right because i had a batch of rem cases in 22-250 that i used to load @ 31.6gr bench mark 2 with 55gr projectile
and i started getting loose primer sockets at about 8-9 loadings now 31.6 is an accuracy load for me well below adi max
So i'm not sure what caused it because all the rest from another bag went on to about 15-20 loadings without socket expansion ,i had a mate anneal them at about
10-11 loadings but he's not here any more as he has moved
I'm a bit like you i'm very fussy with ammo because i like to hit what i aim at i can't afford to have bad shots on wild dogs because they're tough and if the shot is not in the right spot they will get away although they probably will die but thats not me i like to kill instant no suffering for the animal
But in saying that its impossible to get every shot to do that but i try to get as many as i can
My mrs say's i go overboard with my fussiness sometimes but i don't think you can put too much effort into your ammo so as to try and make it perfect
As you said 8-9 loadings is not too bad its just that i've had a little trouble getting brass so this is why the norma thing has started its all i could get at the time
but i think i will stick with them because they do look like good brass a lot better finish than the rem brass i had
Anyway mate here's hoping they last
Cheers