Araldite for bedding

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Araldite for bedding

Post by Blue » 07 Feb 2023, 9:41 am

Could anyone please advise the best type of araldite available in Australia for bedding a rifle action into a stock and where to obtain it? Thanks.
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Post by GQshayne » 09 Feb 2023, 7:36 pm

I would not use Araldite, but have used JB Weld a couple of times.
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Post by deye243 » 09 Feb 2023, 8:29 pm

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Post by on_one_wheel » 09 Feb 2023, 8:57 pm

I did a wooden stock many years ago with araldite, it was a little fiddly but it worked.
It's all basiccy the same stuff, the only variable is the working time which affects strength in the long run, not an issue for bedding other than the slower stuff is more likely to dribble out here and there and get into places you don't want it.
I used a single film of cling wrap to prevent gluing the action to the stock.
Definitely far from ideal, the two products previously mentioned would be far better :thumbsup:
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Post by Die Judicii » 09 Feb 2023, 9:24 pm

I have used this product on three different rifles for bedding.
I have also used Devcon but prefer the Sika Concrete fix Kit above and beyond,,,,,,,,,,
It does a fantastic job,,,,,,,,,,,, and is cheaper than Devcon.
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Post by animalpest » 09 Feb 2023, 11:49 pm

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Post by yoshie » 10 Feb 2023, 6:26 pm

There is a couple of different types of Devcon ( Devon is the brand). The one I used is for aluminium repairs to HVAC systems, it works really well. There are steel, brass and Titanium ones that are quite expensive. The Aluminium ones isn't too expensive, the smallest pack will do 3 to 4 bedding jobs.
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Post by BMW » 11 Feb 2023, 8:32 am

Use Devcon 10110.
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Post by Blue » 21 Feb 2023, 10:32 am

I've previously always borrowed a mate's araldite for bedding (gave him a few cans of beer in return) on several rifles and I really liked it. It's just that the mate has now died, and I can't remember what specific type of araldite it was. I tried Acraglass and hated it...sets way too fast. That's why I wanted to buy my own cans of araldite, but not sure which one is best for rifle bedding.
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Post by yoshie » 21 Feb 2023, 5:29 pm

Blue wrote:I've previously always borrowed a mate's araldite for bedding (gave him a few cans of beer in return) on several rifles and I really liked it. It's just that the mate has now died, and I can't remember what specific type of araldite it was. I tried Acraglass and hated it...sets way too fast. That's why I wanted to buy my own cans of araldite, but not sure which one is best for rifle bedding.


It was probably a product similar to builders bog or vehicle apoxy. You can vary the amount of hardener and it will set slower and be stronger with less shrinkage or, faster set will be more brittle. When you said Araldite I immediately thought the equal part plunger stuff from Bunnings which isn't very good for rifle bedding.
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Post by Blue » 21 Feb 2023, 6:56 pm

It came in two cans about 500ml each, hardener and resin. It was Araldite (written on the cans), but not sure which number Araldite. I mixed the usual black die with it and it set in several hours. I used a spray release agent. Always worked well for me.
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Post by JohnV » 22 Feb 2023, 4:13 pm

Make sure you do a thorough job of applying release agent and either tape up the trigger housing or remove it . Don't let it go really hard before you remove the stock . Some people use tape to hold the action in the stock and don't tighten the screws much at all . Put two bands of tape on the barrel before any stock material is removed so it fits back into the stock without drooping . If you are bedding onto pre glued in pillars you can just use the screws to pull down half tight . Make sure you arrange for clearance in the correct areas using tape as per the type of action so it comes out easy without chipping and other reasons . To remove stock grasp barrel in one hand and stock forend in the other and slowly pull apart . Clean off the excess release agent and any weep area and then refit the stock semi tight . Allow a few days to cure fully . Then remove stock clean up everything lightly oil metalwork and refit stock to normal tightness or your specific torque . Different designed actions bed differently so if you are not familiar with that study up before bedding .
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Post by Blue » 06 May 2023, 4:18 am

I found a very old post on another forum and the araldite that was used and recommended for rifle bedding was Araldite K138 . Has anyone used this particular Araldite for bedding?
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Post by JohnV » 06 May 2023, 8:52 am

If you use thin viscosity Araldite of any kind on it's own it's too runny and droops out of position and can get real messy . To make it thicker and more usable mix in a very small pinch of Graphite and a touch of talc , this makes it stay in place better and turns it black . Just don't use a quick setting Araldite in case you have to remove the action and start again . Car bog polyester putty does ok also and does not shrink . Always have a small left over amount that you can monitor as it goes hard . As soon as it's gone hard enough to not deform with the point of a screw driver with a gentle push then gently remove it and refit as per my above post . Make sure you get release agent into every nook and cranny and having the right clearances in the right places makes getting it out far easier .
K138 is more of a paste and would be good but it's hard to buy in my local . A friend told me to got to spray painting supplier not that far away that they had it but I have not needed any yet .
My 223 was done with Devcon epoxy putty by a club armorer but my 308 I did myself with an Acraglass kit , looks similar stuff to me . My Mauser Butler Creek stock is bedded with Araldite Graphite mix so it matches the black plastic stock but it mainly sits in an alloy rail stock anyway .
My 22-250 I can't remembr what the bedding material was probably Acraglass .
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Post by Die Judicii » 06 May 2023, 11:46 am

The product I listed (with pics) above, is the best for the job that I've ever used, and way cheaper than the likes of Devcon.

1) You get an awful lot of rifles bedded out of those canisters
2) It has a very long shelf life (as long as the lids are replaced properly)
3) It mixes up fairly thick and isn't runny
4) Doesn't go off quickly (approx 12 hrs) so you don't have to rush the job.
5) Doesn't shrink
6) Excellent adhesion

What's not to like about all that ?

You seem to be fixated on using Araldite, :unknown:
The general opinions of several members above have not recommended its use for bedding
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Post by Blue » 06 May 2023, 1:20 pm

There's a bit of a learning curve when you switch bedding materials. I don't deny that the other recommendations are probably very good, but I'm used to using the Araldite and it's done a great job on all my rifles. That's why if I can get the same type of Araldite to what I previously used, that would be my first preference. Unless there's some big negative to using it which I wasn't aware of.
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Post by Rory » 06 Jul 2024, 1:06 pm

Die Judicii wrote:I have used this product on three different rifles for bedding.
I have also used Devcon but prefer the Sika Concrete fix Kit above and beyond,,,,,,,,,,
It does a fantastic job,,,,,,,,,,,, and is cheaper than Devcon.
Available at Bunnings Warehouse

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Die how long do you leave it to removing action?
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Post by SCJ429 » 08 Jul 2024, 7:12 pm

I used automotive body filler, bog, to bed a rifle and used Kiwi boot polish as a release for the bedding block and action. Worked OK. Might be easier to just use Devcon.
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Post by bigrich » 09 Jul 2024, 7:08 am

my gunsmith swears by arma-grout . he's tried everything over the years , and this stuff is impervious to oils and solvents . and has almost zero shrinkage . same can't be said of other compounds. i've used acra-glass years ago, but it doesn't have a long shelf life , even when new instore . hope this helps :thumbsup:
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Post by Die Judicii » 09 Jul 2024, 9:36 pm

Rory wrote:
Die Judicii wrote:I have used this product on three different rifles for bedding.
I have also used Devcon but prefer the Sika Concrete fix Kit above and beyond,,,,,,,,,,
It does a fantastic job,,,,,,,,,,,, and is cheaper than Devcon.
Available at Bunnings Warehouse

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Die how long do you leave it to removing action?
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Post by Wyliecoyote » 09 Jul 2024, 11:23 pm

Blue wrote:Could anyone please advise the best type of araldite available in Australia for bedding a rifle action into a stock and where to obtain it? Thanks.


The resin you are referring to is called Techniglue these days and is available from most shipwrights or most suppliers of fiberglass products stock it. I have used it a lot over the years as have many smiths around the country when doing long range and benchrest rifles because of its superior flow and solvent resistant characteristics. The release agent i strongly recommend is Hornady One Shot case lube or Johnssons furniture wax.

It is about half the cost of Devcon steel and you get twice the amount. It can be dyed and fillers are available but beware the filled version is so tough it will abrade milling cutters very quickly.
If you repair a broken timber stock with it you won't see the joint and the timber will yield long before the glue does. It is unbelievably strong, cheap, clear or can be dyed and won't crack like Devcon steel or aluminum can when flexed or shocked. The only glue for sleeved actions as it is totally impervious to anything but heat.
The stuff comes in plain steel tins with a paper sticker. Nothin flash and Australian made.
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