Ecobogan wrote:Is it possible to develop a self loading action that pretty much unequivocally can't be modified.
Crazy wrote:There are few problems i see, if it is a true semi-auto center fire it would be cat d no matter the capacity. The closest things to a semi-auto rifle on cat b are double action revolving carbines and lever release firearms. There are also already double or triple barrel rifles and shotguns on the market. In all honest i believe that lever release firearms are going to be the next best thing on the Australian market, if an Australian company produces a lever release 12 gauge then that would get around the importation laws as lever release 12 gauges can't be imported.
Ecobogan wrote:Thanks mate and this is exactly what I thought....it not being impossible to modify that is.
Instead of impossible I probably should've said ' where modifying would destroy the action or too difficult to' etc
I'm kinda trying to clear these semi dumb, fully dumb, semi auto, fully auto ideas out of my head so I can move on with my life..,.. possibly onto other semi or fully dumb ideas!
Ecobogan wrote:Are double barrel rifles much of a done thing? Haven't heard much about them being used. Lever release, as crazy pointed out, are possibly the closest we might get....for now
Gaznazdiak wrote:Fuchs Bolt action double rifle
This one will only cost you twice your weight in unobtanium.
Ecobogan wrote:Yes that's the one.... jewelry with a trigger.
Refer me to your other thread crazy, sounds cool
Ecobogan wrote:Maybe the double rifle is the way forward and I'd be very interested in it's development too.
Found this piece of 10/10 awesomeness.... possibly what you were referring to? Umm...still working out how to upload attachments.
Anyway it's the Sceszi&Fuchs double barrel bolt action and looks nothing short of amazing....85k later though
Also the 'Yarra Shelia' is such a bent name for a gun it'd be worth signing up for one based on that alone!
Crazy wrote:I have also had an idea which i have created a thread for a couple of weeks ago, i had the idea of creating a double action semi-auto. Very similar to a striker fire but instead of a firing pin being lifted by the trigger a hammer would be. Considering double action carbines are a thing i don't see how this could be illegal but like many things its a grey area.
Ecobogan wrote:Fair point bigpete and this notion I'm raising is somewhat ambiguous and is probably more a legislative one rather than firearms technology.
I perhaps should've asked " If proof could be (somehow) provided of an untamperable 2 shot semi auto, would that be grounds to approach the authorities to reclassify Cat D to state ' semi auto centrefire of more than 2 rounds'?"
Of course now the validity of a 2 shot semi auto is questionable however if it's effectively the same as a double barrel Cat B rifle then maybe it could work.
Motorcycle licences were kind of reviewed in a similar way. They're now power to weight based not cubic capacity....you can ride a neutered 600 on your P's. How about a neutered semi auto for Cat B.....
Crazy wrote:I have also had an idea which i have created a thread for a couple of weeks ago, i had the idea of creating a double action semi-auto. Very similar to a striker fire but instead of a firing pin being lifted by the trigger a hammer would be. Considering double action carbines are a thing i don't see how this could be illegal but like many things its a grey area.