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Barrel squeak when pushing patch through.

Post by Toppy91 » 14 Sep 2018, 6:33 pm

Hey guys,

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, brand new Howa and cleaning gear using one piece carbon fibre rod. When I push a patch through I am getting a squeak. Should I be concerned?
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Re: Barrel squeak when pushing patch through.

Post by Gaznazdiak » 14 Sep 2018, 6:40 pm

Means the patch is nice and tight and doing a good job.
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Post by Toppy91 » 14 Sep 2018, 6:50 pm

Sweet. Being a newbie I was paranoid!
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 14 Sep 2018, 7:03 pm

No worries toppy, that's how you learn, asking someone who has thought " WTF's that squeak?" and has asked someone else :thumbsup:
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Post by Toppy91 » 14 Sep 2018, 7:10 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:No worries toppy, that's how you learn, asking someone who has thought " WTF's that squeak?" and has asked someone else :thumbsup:


Haha and the knowledge circle continues
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Post by No1_49er » 14 Sep 2018, 7:29 pm

Toppy91 wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:No worries toppy, that's how you learn, asking someone who has thought " WTF's that squeak?" and has asked someone else :thumbsup:


Haha and the knowledge circle continues

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Post by marksman » 14 Sep 2018, 7:50 pm

I used to use a clp that used to make a squeak sound when pushing a patch threw
the clp actually left a surface layer that was near impossible to remove that gunked up my rifle pretty bad
my rifle became almost inoperable after around 12 months
the residue left was a green colour and took a lot of different solvents to get it out
funny the rifle started to shoot straight again when I got it out :thumbsup:
I dont use that ****** any more :drinks:
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Post by duncan61 » 14 Sep 2018, 7:51 pm

Ever heard of squeaky clean.Welcome to the fascinating world of firearms maintenance
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Post by Toppy91 » 14 Sep 2018, 8:56 pm

marksman wrote:I used to use a clp that used to make a squeak sound when pushing a patch threw
the clp actually left a surface layer that was near impossible to remove that gunked up my rifle pretty bad
my rifle became almost inoperable after around 12 months
the residue left was a green colour and took a lot of different solvents to get it out
funny the rifle started to shoot straight again when I got it out :thumbsup:
I dont use that ****** any more :drinks:


Hopefully not G96 lol
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Post by marksman » 14 Sep 2018, 11:29 pm

no it wasn't :thumbsup:
but I did think it was squeaky clean for 12 months :thumbsdown:
apparently this stuff was made from all natural plant substances and put a layer down to stop the fouling sticking to the bore
but it sara lee'd on me layer upon layer upon layer till the rifle wouldn't shoot any more
I put it aside for a month or two then when I went back to it I could see the coating over everything
my bolt wouldn't slide smoothly and the coating was inhibiting a patch to run smoothly down the bore
I had to autosol the bore to get the gunk out and I used spray paint gunwash to clean the bolt and action
it shoots fine again but I will never use that crap again :thumbsdown:
as the guys have said though a tight patch can give a squeaky noise :thumbsup:
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Post by straightshooter » 15 Sep 2018, 8:16 am

Toppy91 wrote:Hey guys,

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, brand new Howa and cleaning gear using one piece carbon fibre rod. When I push a patch through I am getting a squeak. Should I be concerned?


It depends on what is causing the actual squeak.
Rarely it may be due to a very tight dry patch in a dry bore.
The greater possibility is that the rod is bending and rubbing on the bore. So the woven carbon fibre pattern is 'playing' the barrel much as a bow plays on a fiddle. In this particular case the carbon fibre is also acting as an abrasive. Keep in mind what diamond is composed of. Eventually the damage it does will become visible.
Don't think that using a bore guide will prevent that kind of damage. It won't if you are sufficiently ham fisted.
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Post by bigfellascott » 15 Sep 2018, 8:55 am

marksman wrote:I used to use a clp that used to make a squeak sound when pushing a patch threw
the clp actually left a surface layer that was near impossible to remove that gunked up my rifle pretty bad
my rifle became almost inoperable after around 12 months
the residue left was a green colour and took a lot of different solvents to get it out
funny the rifle started to shoot straight again when I got it out :thumbsup:
I dont use that ****** any more :drinks:


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Post by Toppy91 » 15 Sep 2018, 9:48 am

straightshooter wrote:
Toppy91 wrote:Hey guys,

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, brand new Howa and cleaning gear using one piece carbon fibre rod. When I push a patch through I am getting a squeak. Should I be concerned?


It depends on what is causing the actual squeak.
Rarely it may be due to a very tight dry patch in a dry bore.
The greater possibility is that the rod is bending and rubbing on the bore. So the woven carbon fibre pattern is 'playing' the barrel much as a bow plays on a fiddle. In this particular case the carbon fibre is also acting as an abrasive. Keep in mind what diamond is composed of. Eventually the damage it does will become visible.
Don't think that using a bore guide will prevent that kind of damage. It won't if you are sufficiently ham fisted.


Thanks mate. This was a concern but I backed it off and went very slowly making sure the rod was straight and was still making it. Hopefully just a tight patch and extra clean
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Post by marksman » 15 Sep 2018, 10:53 am

bigfellascott wrote:
marksman wrote:I used to use a clp that used to make a squeak sound when pushing a patch threw
the clp actually left a surface layer that was near impossible to remove that gunked up my rifle pretty bad
my rifle became almost inoperable after around 12 months
the residue left was a green colour and took a lot of different solvents to get it out
funny the rifle started to shoot straight again when I got it out :thumbsup:
I dont use that ****** any more :drinks:


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Post by SCJ429 » 15 Sep 2018, 10:54 am

Dry tight patches are more likely to squeak, if you are using solvent on the patch and it squeaks then use more solvent. If your patches are ultra tight where you are putting a lot of force into the rod to push it through then you should trim the patches down. I have watched some of Australia's top competition shooters clean their rifles and they never use heaps of force to clean the barrel. They do use fairly wet patches however.
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Post by Stix » 15 Sep 2018, 11:24 am

Want to hear squeek...?

Push a firm fitting to tight patch soaked in metho on an aluminium jag down a clean shiny bore that's yet to be anointed with oil...that sound...well it'll send shivers down your spine...!!
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Re: Barrel squeak when pushing patch through.

Post by Toppy91 » 15 Sep 2018, 12:49 pm

Stix wrote:Want to hear squeek...?

Push a firm fitting to tight patch soaked in metho on an aluminium jag down a clean shiny bore that's yet to be anointed with oil...that sound...well it'll send shivers down your spine...!!


No thanks. This is bad enough haha
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Post by Oldbloke » 16 Sep 2018, 8:26 am

"Keep in mind what diamond is composed of."

I have seen this suggestion before.

Just because it's carbon does not automatically mean it can cause damage. Diamonds are pure carbon with a particular form/structure. Graphite, a fantastic lubricant is also pure carbon, just different structure.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon
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