My experience with bore cleaning

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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by solarpak » 02 Jan 2020, 10:20 pm

My 2cents worth...

First up - pass half dozen patches with carbon remover (brake cleaner ) through bore - from breech to muzzle only (dont drag a carbon fouled patch back thru the bore)
Secondly - use Bore Tech Eliminator with a nylon brush - saturate it with solvent - 20-30 strokes through the bore - let it sit for 20 mins - patch out .
Examine muzzle - if copper streaks exist - use Boretech copper solvent OR KG12 on a patch - let it sit 30 mins intermittently scrubbing with a nylon brush - patch out.

Copper should be gone ...if not repeat the Copper solvent/KG12 step till it is.

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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by mchughcb » 02 Jan 2020, 11:37 pm

If i could hook up a camera to my hawkeye borescope i would and make a video. Is cleanliness of barrel equal to accuracy? Do you really need to get barrel back to bare metal?

What I have learnt.

C4+ carbon cleaner gets rid of all powder and and some carbon.
KG12 gets rid of copper streaks even if you don't scrub.
Getting rid of baked on carbon requires bore paste.

https://youtu.be/315vYZGyHhs
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by mchughcb » 02 Jan 2020, 11:39 pm

No scrubbing and you can see copper dissolve. You won't see boretech cu2+ do this.

https://youtu.be/soFJxb4zJ78
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by SCJ429 » 04 Jan 2020, 2:08 pm

I have not used KG12 and no doubt it removes copper but in my experience Boretech Cu will remove copper in the same way. Do you feel like setting up your camera with a copper streak and some Boretech?
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by mchughcb » 04 Jan 2020, 4:10 pm

Yep but out of boretech. Send me some boretech and I'll do a side by side comparison
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by SCJ429 » 04 Jan 2020, 9:00 pm

Let me know how much you want and your credit card number and it's on it way.
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by mchughcb » 04 Jan 2020, 9:10 pm

Before i think about a video here's a table that compares the leaching power of kg12 with boretech.

https://www.coretacsolutions.com/produc ... 2_TEST.htm
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by mchughcb » 04 Jan 2020, 9:17 pm

Here's another one. KG12 leaches far more than boretech cu2+ or eliminator.

https://www.shootersforum.com/gun-clean ... pics/80374
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by SCJ429 » 04 Jan 2020, 9:32 pm

It is interesting when a company conducts their own research, the data shows the Ballistol lubricant as being three times more effective than Boretech despite it not being a copper solvent.

Thanks for posting the information however, I will look out for the KG product and give it a go.
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by solarpak » 05 Jan 2020, 9:20 am

SCJ429 wrote:It is interesting when a company conducts their own research, the data shows the Ballistol lubricant as being three times more effective than Boretech despite it not being a copper solvent.

Thanks for posting the information however, I will look out for the KG product and give it a go.


Ballistol is a great product - more of an all-rounder and one which i use for cleaning and lubrication. It certainly wont harm the bore and would remove powder fouling . For field use its a good choice.
But for proper cleaning i use products which i have trust in - and i have used pretty well everything on the market.
For me , its Bore-Tech, KG and Pro-shot.

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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by SCJ429 » 05 Jan 2020, 10:29 am

The test was to sit a 338 projectile in the product and see how much copper was removed after 17 hours. The result for Ballistol lubricant was 0.3 of a grain. The result for Boretech Cu copper solvent was zero.
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by Wm.Traynor » 05 Jan 2020, 11:05 am

SCJ429 wrote:The test was to sit a 338 projectile in the product and see how much copper was removed after 17 hours. The result for Ballistol lubricant was 0.3 of a grain. The result for Boretech Cu copper solvent was zero.


Fascinating :o
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by sungazer » 05 Jan 2020, 12:55 pm

I use the KG12 and it works great. Just a warning to others though if you have not read the MSDS it is pure Cyanide its not going to kill you but it is a chemical that should be given a bit more respect than other bore cleaners wash hands well after use.
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by SCJ429 » 05 Jan 2020, 10:04 pm

Good information there Gazer, do you have the MSDS sheet for Boretech and if so, what is the active ingredient?
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by Oldbloke » 06 Jan 2020, 4:17 pm

sungazer wrote:I use the KG12 and it works great. Just a warning to others though if you have not read the MSDS it is pure Cyanide its not going to kill you but it is a chemical that should be given a bit more respect than other bore cleaners wash hands well after use.



Mmmmm,,, just checked LESS THAN 3% Cyanide. Still, treat it with respect.

Edit, You cant generally buy that type of stuff without some sort of licence. (Dependent on concentration) Its heavily regulated.
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by sungazer » 06 Jan 2020, 5:48 pm

Yes I shouldn't have used the word pure. The other ingredient is water. Im not sure if I have the Boretech MSDS I probable do as I went through the exercise of comparing them all. They were mostly all the same with very little active ingredient in them.
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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by Oldbloke » 06 Jan 2020, 6:12 pm

sungazer wrote:Yes I shouldn't have used the word pure. The other ingredient is water. Im not sure if I have the Boretech MSDS I probable do as I went through the exercise of comparing them all. They were mostly all the same with very little active ingredient in them.


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Re: My experience with bore cleaning

Post by mchughcb » 06 Jan 2020, 6:34 pm

Cyanide is great for leaching gold and copper.
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