Sauer 100XT feeding issue

[Harrynsw]

Hi Folks
Just wondering if anyone else has had/is having feeding issues with their Sauer 100XT. Mine is in .223.
The bolt cycles fine when the magazine's not loaded , but when it's in loaded, it dosnt cycle smoothly when it's pushing the round in, it's giving me resistance, enough to be uncomfortable.

[TassieTiger]

I’ve had a couple slight issues if cycling very slowly - but a light coating of oil resolved my issues and making a determined action to get the jolt home.
You can lap the bolt and make it like glass...

[Harrynsw]

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I’ve had a couple slight issues if cycling very slowly - but a light coating of oil resolved my issues and making a determined action to get the jolt home.
You can lap the bolt and make it like glass...

Iv been cycling it for 15 minutes to see what I can see, I was cycling the same round over and over. I started to notice a scrape Mark on the brass.

[Harrynsw]

I think this is where it's coming from

[TassieTiger]

This was originally posted by Marksman - it’s a really, really good series of videos.
I think This one shows what you need to do—
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq0iCDuasgo

[marksman]

its definitely dragging on something, if its under warranty send it back for a look
it could be a number of things from the mag feed lips not the right angle, or maybe hitting the feed ramp or the edge of the chamber, any of these things are usually related to the mag feed lips, being push feed the round may not be popping up early enough
let us know how you go

[bigrich]

if it were my rifle , i would deburr that edge with a dremel . very,very slightly . if that's not a option return it to the place of purchase for a fix

[Blr243]

Mine was bought new. Never polished or fiddled with in any way. It’s a 243 Despite lots of dust and field use , factory ammunition or reloads, it’s accurate and feeds fine and everting functions flawlessly ....it’s one of those rifles that feels beautiful and perfect in the hands ( and I don’t mean looks) It inspires confidence in the user. no wild animal can escape a well sighted sauer

[straightshooter]

I have no familiarity with that action BUT I would caution against putting on your butchers apron and removing material that later it will be impossible to replace.
It is difficult for me to imagine a manufacturer such as Saur producing such a poorly toleranced feed arrangement.
Your investigation process should be something like......
Does it have a detachable magazine?
Does the magazine present the cartridge at the right angle?
Is it possible to push the magazine further up?
Etc.
If you are not able to diagnose the problem and even if it is no longer under warranty enquire about rectification due to a manufacturing deficiency.

[Harrynsw]

Im tempted to get the dremel out, but I think the first step I'll take is to call the shop and see what sort of feedback they give me.

[Blr243]

I thought the lucky 13 mag for my 450 bm ruger was faulty because it fell out on firing from recoil ..but I was not assertive enough with seating. So now I just smash it in there and it’s fine

[bigrich]

Im tempted to get the dremel out, but I think the first step I'll take is to call the shop and see what sort of feedback they give me.

if you do dremel it harry, all your trying to do is remove any burr and leave a polished edge . you don't want to put a chamfer on the corner which may affect the fed angle . i've touched up extractors and polished the corners of locking lugs to achieve slick , smooth rifles . but use extreme caution with modification . taking back to the shop first is probably the best move

[Harrynsw]

Im tempted to get the dremel out, but I think the first step I'll take is to call the shop and see what sort of feedback they give me.

if you do dremel it harry, all your trying to do is remove any burr and leave a polished edge . you don't want to put a chamfer on the corner which may affect the fed angle . i've touched up extractors and polished the corners of locking lugs to achieve slick , smooth rifles . but use extreme caution with modification . taking back to the shop first is probably the best move

Cheers, thanks big rich.

[marksman]

IMHO if it is hitting the feed ramp it has something to do with the magazine not presenting the round at the right angle, what SS said
it is push feed so it is possibly not popping the round up early enough, thats a mag problem and so is not presenting the round at the right angle,
watch the round feed from the mag
dont get the 8" grinder out to quick

your cycled round looks standard OAL, if you were using vld bullets because of the longer OAL l may agree with attacking the feed ramp with the 8" grinder

[Stix]

You know...ive got a 4", 4.5", 5" & 9" grinder & a 16" quick cut...and i didnt even know you could get 8" grinders...

[marksman]

You know...ive got a 4", 4.5", 5" & 9" grinder & a 16" quick cut...and i didnt even know you could get 8" grinders...

l'm using cavemans 8" grinder mate its a beut

[bigrich]

bloody 8" grinders MM and stix , you jokers

[Blr243]

All this 8 in grinder waffle is freaking me out. Bench mounted grinders are 8 inch. Large angle grinders are 9 inch.

[Stix]

You know...ive got a 4", 4.5", 5" & 9" grinder & a 16" quick cut...and i didnt even know you could get 8" grinders...

l'm using cavemans 8" grinder mate its a beut

You know...i actually dont know what youre talking about...so much so that i just googled "cavemans 8"..." to see if there was a brand name called "caveman" who made an 8" grinder...

So im only laughing because i feel silly...

Then, i had to do some mental 'multi meaning' thinking...& i thought of...well...a caveman & his big stick with his missus...& i hope you lead her by the hand marksman, & not by the hair...

But all in all...i still not sure what you mean.. ....maybe bigrich will whisper it in my ear when you're not looking & then ill pretend i knew all along...

[TassieTiger]

My missus will tell ya I’ve an 8” grinder...
Sorry, dug it again. Wrong forum.

[marksman]

caveman from this forum posted up about a week ago that he had got out his 8" grinder because of the bickering l supose you would call it
someone else did post up that they had never heard of an 8" grinder before and now his avatar is a grinder

its ok we can all sleep well tonight guys
no need for googling 8" grinders anymore

while l have mentioned bickering, hasn't it been quiet on the forum the last couple of days
you would be able to hear one of DJ's field mice farting its been that quiet
l wonder hmmmmm

[Wm.Traynor]

[quote="marksman"
while l have mentioned bickering, hasn't it been quiet on the forum the last couple of days
you would be able to hear one of DJ's field mice farting its been that quiet
l wonder hmmmmm [/quote]

There's a lot of Bad, Serious, Stuff happening in the world and I am waiting to see what trend develops. Speaking for myself, of course

[Strangedog]

I've got one in .308. I have an issue with it feeding if you work the bolt slowly and the rifle is pointing skyward. If I chamber a round fast or normal I have no dramas. A couple of times when I tried to silently cock the rifle real slow like I've had some binding of the round.

[Harrynsw]

I've got one in .308. I have an issue with it feeding if you work the bolt slowly and the rifle is pointing skyward. If I chamber a round fast or normal I have no dramas. A couple of times when I tried to silently cock the rifle real slow like I've had some binding of the round.

Some elements of your issue sound similar to mine. I called the store I bought it from yesterday, they said to bring it in, they pretty much knew what it was, they told me they might have to take a bur off, without me even fully explaining what the problem was, so pretty sure they've encountered it before.
When I get some free time I'll go to the garage and have a good look and see if I want to do it myself, save me a trip to the shop.

[bigrich]

I’d probably let the shop fix it harry, that way it won’t void any warranty. If they’ve offered, I’d let em do it . My sauer was wonderfully slick and fed well unless you cycled slowly. I’m going back to the reliable two locking lug internal mag Mauser style actions myself as I just like that system

[Harrynsw]

I’d probably let the shop fix it harry, that way it won’t void any warranty. If they’ve offered, I’d let em do it . My sauer was wonderfully slick and fed well unless you cycled slowly. I’m going back to the reliable two locking lug internal mag Mauser style actions myself as I just like that system

Yeah you're right, I'm just being lazy. Next opportunity, when ever that happens...

[Peter988]

When my 100XT was new (223) it jammed the feed if more than two were in the mag. Fed fine with one or two. Jammed with three or four. Sent it back and they fixed it. Been fine since and shoots really well. Extremely happy with the rifle.

[marksman]

so where is the burr

you will be able to check for a burr easily with a cotton bud

l've seen scrapes like those on your cases from the case dragging back against the side of the action when being extracted
not that has nothing to do with feeding

let us know what you find its not hard to check

[Harrynsw]

When my 100XT was new (223) it jammed the feed if more than two were in the mag. Fed fine with one or two. Jammed with three or four. Sent it back and they fixed it. Been fine since and shoots really well. Extremely happy with the rifle.

Different issue, but an issue none the less. Do you know what they did to rectify the problem?

[Harrynsw]

so where is the burr

you will be able to check for a burr easily with a cotton bud

l've seen scrapes like those on your cases from the case dragging back against the side of the action when being extracted
not that has nothing to do with feeding

let us know what you find its not hard to check

Thanks for the cotton bud tip, I'll be sure to use it and I'll keep you posted, cheers.