What grease for my rifle bolt?

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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Fujix » 18 Jul 2014, 1:12 pm

jastreb wrote:How do you make it stay where you want it? Doesn't it just "fall off" and in that make even more mess as it collects somewhere in the action where you don't want it to be?


I was just wondering this. Seems like it would all just collect in the bottom of the bolt?
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by mausermate » 18 Jul 2014, 2:11 pm

Fujix wrote:
jastreb wrote:How do you make it stay where you want it? Doesn't it just "fall off" and in that make even more mess as it collects somewhere in the action where you don't want it to be?


I was just wondering this. Seems like it would all just collect in the bottom of the bolt?


Buy some and try some, its not expensive. Think you will get a little surprised. It's also awesome on locks. Puff a little in the key hole. ;)
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by petemacsydney » 18 Jul 2014, 2:27 pm

i have to admit, i'm leaning towards the castrol moly grease. if i buy a tub of that stuff it will last me a lifetime.

i know purists will say buy the one made for rifles not cars, but does anyone have some detail on the risks of using the castrol moly compared to a purpose 'designed' grease? i tried google but there was nothing to find.

i'm not that experienced with rifles, but for other interests/products i often come across re-branding being the only difference... so i'm always sceptical about marketing! lol
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by bigfellascott » 18 Jul 2014, 5:00 pm

petemacsydney wrote:i have to admit, i'm leaning towards the castrol moly grease. if i buy a tub of that stuff it will last me a lifetime.

i know purists will say buy the one made for rifles not cars, but does anyone have some detail on the risks of using the castrol moly compared to a purpose 'designed' grease? i tried google but there was nothing to find.

i'm not that experienced with rifles, but for other interests/products i often come across re-branding being the only difference... so i'm always sceptical about marketing! lol


I reckon it will be fine to use Peter, just don't go over using any lube, just a light smear is all that's really needed and don't forget the back of the lugs either, less is more.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by SendIt » 22 Jul 2014, 9:08 pm

petemacsydney wrote:i have to admit, i'm leaning towards the castrol moly grease. if i buy a tub of that stuff it will last me a lifetime.


My mechanic was nice enough to give me a tub with 2 inches of grease left in it after I asked.

Been getting my car done there for a while and got the mates favour for it.

Maybe try the same if you can?
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Apollo » 22 Jul 2014, 11:22 pm

The only place "Grease" should be in a Firearm is on the "Locking Lugs" at the rear or for those that replace / switch barrels on the thread BUT in both circumstances it is just a smear.

The grease for locking lugs should be what is classified as "high pressure grease" in other words like what's use in wheel bearings not chassis grease.

Moly / Graphite High Pressure grease is fine.

The tubes meantioned are exactly that but cost more because they say "Firearms" ....

You should know how to clean not only the rifle bore but the action and you need to clean your bolt. Apply a very light coat of gun oil to protect against corrosion and a smear of grease to the rear of the locking lugs.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Josh Smith » 23 Jul 2014, 2:33 am

Hello,

I've come to prefer Lucas engine assembly lube (prevents dry starts!) That stuff never comes off and works really well with a very thin film.

I use this on my pistol slides as well. If you consider it, every automatic cycle of a semi-automatic pistol is a "dry start".

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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by petemacsydney » 23 Jul 2014, 9:21 am

Apollo wrote:The only place "Grease" should be in a Firearm is on the "Locking Lugs" at the rear or for those that replace...........


oohhhh Crap!, i just soaked by scope and rifle stock in Moly...
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Harts » 23 Jul 2014, 10:12 pm

It's "wipe" the rifle. Not "dip" the rifle.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by petemacsydney » 24 Jul 2014, 6:04 pm

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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Wilso1994 » 24 Jul 2014, 7:12 pm

I use an oil, tetra spray on stuff. It's bloody awesome. 2 quick sprays and it lasts a month or so
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Oldbloke » 24 Jul 2014, 10:33 pm

"The tubes meantioned are exactly that but cost more because they say "Firearms" ...Same as wedding cakes $20 today, same cake tomorrow but ordered for a wedding $200, lol Orange cap at the ohs shop $3, orange hunting cap at lgs $25, with splash of black paint. Lol a rip off.

Apollo is correct in my view. Any light oil for the most, bearing grease on lugs. Same for shotguns. 90 gearbox oil for case lube. I wash parts in diesel, because it leaves an oily coat on the metal.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Oldbloke » 24 Jul 2014, 10:35 pm

"The tubes meantioned are exactly that but cost more because they say "Firearms" ...Same as wedding cakes $20 today, same cake tomorrow but ordered for a wedding $200, lol Orange cap at the ohs shop $3, orange hunting cap at lgs $25, with splash of black paint. Lol a rip off.

Apollo is correct in my view. Any light oil for the most, bearing grease on lugs. Same for shotguns. 90 gearbox oil for case lube. I wash parts in diesel, because it leaves an oily coat on the metal.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Lorgar » 25 Jul 2014, 9:50 am

Bought my dog a new stainless steel bowl the other day.

"bowl" from the bargain shop $6.

"pet food bowl" from the pet store $28.

Literally the exact same bowl.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Oldbloke » 26 Jul 2014, 9:50 am

Pet bowl would arrive from china for .60 cents..lol
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by petemacsydney » 26 Jul 2014, 10:19 am

thats a lot of pet bowls mate
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Aster » 26 Jul 2014, 10:17 pm

Doing it's funny duplicate post thing for oldbloke again. Can't work that one out so far.

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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by kritch » 26 Jul 2014, 10:18 pm

Wilso1994 wrote:I use an oil, tetra spray on stuff. It's bloody awesome. 2 quick sprays and it lasts a month or so


Just got a can of this myself. Good to read the thumbs up.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Brucey4409 » 07 Aug 2014, 7:37 pm

Hey buddy, I'd recommend molybdenum disulfide, easiest way is to grab a aerosol can of "molybond".

Clean your bolt down and wipe it dry, then spray on a nice even coat on the body (not the face) of the bolt.

Any dry film lubricant will probably work but I've run tests on this product with a group of assault rifles and it stood up to 1000's of rounds of rapid fire with good results.

I'd avoid a silicone based spray though, could spell disaster if you ever try and cerakote your rifle.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by disko » 08 Aug 2014, 11:40 am

Brucey4409 wrote:Any dry film lubricant will probably work but I've run tests on this product with a group of assault rifles and it stood up to 1000's of rounds of rapid fire with good results.


Sounds fun :D

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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Brucey4409 » 09 Aug 2014, 8:36 am

Nah, just a trivia night that went pear shaped ;)

Yeah it was a trial to test new lubrication methods to cut down on stoppages in the desert caused by sand ingress.
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Re: What grease?

Post by petemacsydney » 10 Aug 2014, 8:51 pm

SendIt wrote:Castol Moly for me.

Any car supplies place. Super Cheap Auto, Bunnings maybe?


is this ok?

couldnt find castrol moly ;-(

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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by disko » 11 Aug 2014, 10:07 am

Brucey4409 wrote:Nah, just a trivia night that went pear shaped ;)


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Re: What grease?

Post by SendIt » 11 Aug 2014, 10:10 am

petemacsydney wrote:is this ok?


I haven't used the Penrite brand specifically but that's the right stuff.

Like I said, I only went with the Castrol because a mechanic mate gave me the tub, not because it's specifically better for any reason.

Should be fine ;)
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by petemacsydney » 11 Aug 2014, 10:50 am

cool, thx mate

i reckon it will take me about 60 years to get through that tub!!!
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by SendIt » 12 Aug 2014, 8:35 am

Yep, it'll last you :D
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Warrigul » 12 Aug 2014, 2:26 pm

Lots of opinions on grease on bolts, and as in any internet subject there is a bit of sheeple effect. With my Target rifles I always grease the backs of the lugs and the cocking cams as these are subject to wear and lots of rounds. However after 4783 rounds my mates rifles has suffered only minimal wear(read a bit of polishing) and is still firm on the GO guage.

You can draw your own conclusions, but he has only ever kept the bolt clean and lightly oiled with Inox oil.

I suppose it could be said that if you keep the firearm clean and oiled and inadvertently forget to grease the sky won't fall in anytime soon, often the lugs need to wear in a little anyway or knock some of the machining irregularities off, many gunsmiths lap them in.

By all means grease lugs but make sure you also regularly clean that area out as grease plus grit equal grinding paste and that is something most people would wish to avoid.

If you are a hunter and get rubbish in your gear regularly then a good clean and oil may well suffice(this is all I do) especially if you full length size or use factory loads as the strain when loading and extracting is often minimal.

We have brains and should use them, just my humble opinions.

Oh and I hate moly or graphite grease as the ****** gets everywhere. I save it for the double cardian and swivel joints on the Hilux, I only use Wynn's Supreme(as I have for 20 plus years on anything subject to extreme wear).
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by petemacsydney » 12 Aug 2014, 2:53 pm

how do you guys clean the lug area inside the action? i've tried to stick my finger in wrapped in some cotton material, but find it very hard to clean effectively. its not really dirty, as i take good care of the rifle, but i'm sure there is a better more efficient way to do it ?
maybe a spray solution with pipe extender would be a better way to approach it?
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by Apollo » 12 Aug 2014, 3:21 pm

Pete, you can buy special little brushes designed for cleaning the chamber / locking lugs. Like little tooth brushes with brissle's on the side. BRT for one.

I don't like moly or graphite grease either, it's too dirty if you get it on things. As I said earlier, high presure / extreme grease is all that is required and a very small amount at that like a tiny dab on a cotton bud. I like the tubes like seringe that you can squeeze a tiny amount out of the end and smear it with it's own tip. Saves
a lot of mess and easy to carry in the cleaning kit.
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Re: What grease for my rifle bolt?

Post by petemacsydney » 12 Aug 2014, 5:42 pm

sounds good. can you link me?
couldn't find any on google ;-(
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