bigfellascott wrote:I put a small amount of grease on the rear of the Locking lugs, the world hasn't fallen in on me so I figure i'll keep doing it (been around 40yrs now) I lube the whole bolt with whatever oil I'm using at the time (wipe it over).
wayward wrote:I'm 99% sure I have this right but here goes...
Rifle bolt lube is for the internals only right? Not lubricating the actual working of the bolt.
There is something about lubing the outside of the bolt adds pressure to the lugs when firing and can be a safety issue?
newsteadvic wrote:I think you are conflating bolt race and lug lubrication with the myth about lubrication in the chamber increasing bolt thrust pressure. The myth being that lubrication between case and chamber prevents the case "gripping" chamber walls and so all thrust is against bolt head, increasing bolt thrust.
I think it is an excellent idea to lightly oil the bolt race or rails and bolt lugs or the locking plate if a lever action, just like you would oil any other metal on metal machine.
cruze82 wrote:come on brett stop showing off your BIG bolt
Chronos wrote:Myth? not as far as i'm concerned.
veep wrote:Wasn't that Blaser blowup at the SSAA range they put down to hot loads that were lubed?
brett1868 wrote:Big bolt, Long Barrel and a Massive load...life's looking up for me every day and not because everyone is taller then me
mausermate wrote:There has been a lot of crap put on Blaser. not sure why? I can never seem to find the hard evidence. Love to see it if anyone has some.
Not interested in hearsay but no offense intended to the previous posts. Just want to know.
We have been following this behind the scenes for a bit. Now it seems that as much information is available, as may ever be available.
A Blaser blow up occurred in Australia.
The caliber was a 338 Lapua.
It was shot using ammo manufactured by a local, commercial enterprise.
The user had decided that his firearm did not extract as slick as he desired. He was using Hornady, One Shot case lube, in the chamber, and on the collet fingers between shots. Even after damage to collet fingers was observed, he continued to use the firearm, and lube between shots. Out of six shots, two case head separations occurred. The shooter continued to use the firearm. On the 7th shot, the firearm decided life was too short to put up with, and ended the shooter/blowupees range experience for that day. Not documented, but persons closer to the situation, have mentioned, that a Blaser barrel, in another caliber, this same shooter was treating with the case lube, had shown signs of similar bolt head finger damage, as the one that blew up.
The shooter/blowupee, has refused to allow Blaser access to rifle, and ammunition.
While this information has come from local, and reliable sources. Things sometimes get lost in translation, and while we feel this information to be fairly accurate, it may not be 100% exact. If we need to make corrections, or additions to this report, we will as needed.
All firearms have design parameters. Exceeding them, when the firearm is telling you, that you are doing so, is ill advised.
We will edit, and add information if things become clearer than what we have.
No further comments, or participation by members is needed at this point. This is posted for information only.
I would just like to reply to this accusation as I am sick and tired of hearing such rubbish,
seriously do you really think using case lube in a chamber or on the bolt face will destroy this rifle like it did?
being the person who looked after this poor guy (one of your mob a blaser owner and enthusiest by the way) he did not use case lube on the bolt face or in the chamber at all, what rubbish, sounds like some people will bury a mate to protect there brand,
the rifle blew up in a way that no rifle should, the bolt came straight back at him, as has happened before several time's with this type of blaser rifle, (google it), the load's were hot but that is how you load any 338 lap or wsm and lots of other cals for that matter,
he was not having case head seperation's or problems with extracting cases, he fired 50 shot's, the 51st blew?
the barrel was not blocked and did not have a bulge in it, I checked every case that was fired there was no lube!
look on accurate shooter and see a savage that blew up because the owner forgot to remove a cleaning rod, then carried on shooting another rifle for the rest of the day, his action locked not like the blaser and he is safe,
the blaser shoots the bolt back at you, (google it) factory ammo, reloaded ammo, no difference, the causes I have heard are,
dirt-grit where the hooks fit, trigger group pins being made of steel and coroding so the trigger can be pulled when the bolt is not closed, apparently changed to stainless pins now? pistol powder ect.....
how about not trying to make this guy look like a dick and support a blaser user like yourselves and wait for the real story to come out what ever it will be.
I will say this though I and many people I know will not ever shoot a blaser after this, and it has stopped a few people I know from buying them, I dont even like being near one when it's fired,
and just remember the bloke this happened to was a blaser supporter so give him a break!
I was there were you?
mausermate wrote:Anyway, back to rifle bolt lubrication.
newsteadvic wrote:Whert you are repeating internet heresy. You have cherry-picked a quote.