Carbon fibre cleaning rods

[ailar]

Long story short - Don't lean a cleaning rod in a doorway while you go and so something else because someone will slam the door on it and bend it

So I need a new cleaning rod.

A carbon fibre cleaning rod caught my eye. Goes on about being strong and light? Who cares about weight for a cleaning rod though?

Does a carbon fibre cleaning rod do anything better or just for cool factor?

[Baronvonrort]

It would probably cost a bit more.

[artimu]

Meh, what's wrong with a normal cleaning rod?

[Guliver]

Meh, what's wrong with a normal cleaning rod?

I guess in the situation described above carbon fibre would have survived to clean another day

We used to use long fibreglass rods to,push down conduits at Telecom until one snapped and speared a fellow in the palm, it went halfway up his arm

But I don't think that would ever happen with this application.

Benefits, light weight and extremely strong.

[MeccaOz]

Ive heard ( So I really dont know myself ) That they can get grit stuck in them, which isnt good for your barrel ... Might be something to look into mate. The best you can get is a 1 piece steel rod ( steel that is obviously softer than your barrel ), is also another Thing I've heard, but from someone I trust. I myself use a pull through, not talking bore snake but a proper rig, cant remember the name of it, but ill be getting a one piece myself when I get to the city

[rummer]

Any decent standard one will be made to be softer than your barrel. It should take the damage from grit etc.

Weight... Like you say, who cares.

I'm leaning towards cool factor I think.

[ailar]

Ended up going with a regular one.

Asked the guy about the CF but he couldn't really sell it...

Happy to save the money anyway

[Deco]

I've used both and couldn't tell the difference TBH.

If it pushes the patch and doesn't damage the barrel, job done.

[mahna]

A lot of target shooters prefer them.

Softer on the barrel I think is the logic and they're very conscious of doing anything to degrade their accuracy, thinking a steel rod might wear the barrel.

[bigfellascott]

I've got one of the CF in 22cal, bloody things real bendy, I'd rather just stick with the SS version myself, the CF one was stuffed within minutes of using it (bearings went in the handle) so it was replaced and sits there unused now..

[Warrigul]

A lot of target shooters prefer them.

Softer on the barrel I think is the logic and they're very conscious of doing anything to degrade their accuracy, thinking a steel rod might wear the barrel.

What is the hardest material known to man after diamond(which is only compressed carbon)?

I use plastic coated spring steel one piece rods and attempt to keep them clean and I only insert them from the breech.

A bore guide is good if you don't have educated fingers.

I don't think there is any ultra safe option to cleaning rods the only no no's are pull throughs (sorry Mecca) and two piece rods.

Just my humble opinions and for what it is worth I carry a three piece rod hunting just in case.

[on_one_wheel]

A lot of target shooters prefer them.

Softer on the barrel I think is the logic and they're very conscious of doing anything to degrade their accuracy, thinking a steel rod might wear the barrel.

What is the hardest material known to man after diamond(which is only compressed carbon)?

I use plastic coated spring steel one piece rods and attempt to keep them clean and I only insert them from the breech.

A bore guide is good if you don't have educated fingers.

I don't think there is any ultra safe option to cleaning rods the only no no's are pull throughs (sorry Mecca) and two piece rods.

Just my humble opinions and for what it is worth I carry a three piece rod hunting just in case.

Carbon might be hard but is it abrasive ? I couldnt find the answer with a quick Google search.

iv got a 4 piece steel rod made by Kleen Bore ... never used it, didnt like the idea of the slight edges where the joins were made or the bare steel finish.
I quite like my one piece steel rod that has a painted finish.

[Warrigul]

A lot of target shooters prefer them.

Softer on the barrel I think is the logic and they're very conscious of doing anything to degrade their accuracy, thinking a steel rod might wear the barrel.

What is the hardest material known to man after diamond(which is only compressed carbon)?

I use plastic coated spring steel one piece rods and attempt to keep them clean and I only insert them from the breech.

A bore guide is good if you don't have educated fingers.

I don't think there is any ultra safe option to cleaning rods the only no no's are pull throughs (sorry Mecca) and two piece rods.

Just my humble opinions and for what it is worth I carry a three piece rod hunting just in case.

Carbon might be hard but is it abrasive ? I couldnt find the answer with a quick Google search.

iv got a 4 piece steel rod made by Kleen Bore ... never used it, didnt like the idea of the slight edges where the joins were made or the bare steel finish.
I quite like my one piece steel rod that has a painted finish.

The softest material in any match up is going to be the loser.

I like painted or plastic coated steel but that is just me. Soft materials have the potential to pick up rubbish and carbon from burnt powder any.

Lets face it there is so much carbon left behind after a shot that we are probably fighting a losing battle whatever we do. There is method behind the old: half dip a patch in hoppes and push straight through the bore discarding at the end while the barrel is still warm.

[brett1868]

I prefer stainless rods and I plastic coat them myself using heat shrink tubing. I wipe the rod after each pass and change the heat shrink from time to time as needed though it's lasts a long time so maybe gets changed once or twice a year.

[samf]

I like painted or plastic coated steel but that is just me.

Painted?

Doesn't it just scrape off reasonably quickly?

[RoginaJack]

I myself use a pull through, not talking bore snake but a proper rig, cant remember the name of it, but ill be getting a one piece myself when I get to the city

I assume that you always use a good bore guide with the pull through...

[on_one_wheel]

I like painted or plastic coated steel but that is just me.

Painted?

Doesn't it just scrape off reasonably quickly?

I've had my painted one for 10 years and it only has a couple of small scrapes from the sharp edges of the 12 gauge, mind you I am very careful.

if you are rough and just smash it back and forth with little attention to alignment no doubt it would rip the paint off pretty quick.

[mausermate]

Like the idea of some heat shrink. Duh...I had never thought of it. Thanks Brett.

[joojoobeans]

Where do you get stuff heat wrapped though?

Can you DIY without spending too much on the stuff to do it?

[brett1868]

FFS, Can we change the spelling from "figure" to "fibre" of this thread casue my inner spelling Nazi coupled with my OCD is going to give me a stroke.

[KWhorenet]

Carbon figure in most cases is correct...allot of what people buy is just that. It looks like but isnt more than one wrap of carbon fibre weaved sheet over something else.
Carbon fibre is enclosed in resin. So no carbon will be abrasive if coated in resin...no more so than a plastic rod.

As far as dragging carbon goes, how could it be any more damaging than a projectile being blasted down the tube after each shot with fowling being mushed along the way?

Isnt this why boreguides were invented? One end of rod is supported away from barrel by the cleaning material/tip, the other supported by the guide.

If you pull rather than push the rod wont flex therefore it wont contact the bore and do damage if pulled from the guide end? Rum O'Clock.

[brett1868]

Punch "Carbon figure cleaning rod" into Google and see what comes back....not much. There's many types of carbon fibre besides the pretty weaved type you see on hot rods. If you've ever snapped a CF rod in a tent then you'll see that there's no inner something else. The good quality rods have very little resin as they don't need the top coat to look pretty and the carbon can contact the riffling very easily.The bore guide is there to protect the chamber and also to prevent chemicals dripping into the action, does nothing to stop the flex of a rod making contact with the rifling. Projectiles are relatively soft copper as you know but carbon is one of the hardest substances on the planet, think diamond. I machine quite a bit of CF pate and tube and it's nasty on tools, I destroyed a new blade on a bandsaw in just a few cuts of 2mm plate.

[mausermate]

Punch "Carbon figure cleaning rod" into Google and see what comes back....not much. There's many types of carbon fibre besides the pretty weaved type you see on hot rods. If you've ever snapped a CF rod in a tent then you'll see that there's no inner something else. The good quality rods have very little resin as they don't need the top coat to look pretty and the carbon can contact the riffling very easily.The bore guide is there to protect the chamber and also to prevent chemicals dripping into the action, does nothing to stop the flex of a rod making contact with the rifling. Projectiles are relatively soft copper as you know but carbon is one of the hardest substances on the planet, think diamond. I machine quite a bit of CF pate and tube and it's nasty on tools, I destroyed a new blade on a bandsaw in just a few cuts of 2mm plate.

You okay man? yes, yes, fibre..
Found the heat shrink at my local TLE JJB.

[brett1868]

"You okay man? yes, yes, fibre.."
Yes, I believe I am but others may disagree

"Found the heat shrink at my local TLE JJB."
Stainless with heat shrink is the best of both worlds in my opinion.

Now to avoid the "Powder Sorage" thread....

[KWhorenet]

I never said they would be called carbon figure. It was a generalisation regarding the ccomment to change the title to fibre. Sort of tongue in cheek stuff. Moisture is the enemy if carbon fibre in my field due to delamination issues. Resin and paint protects it from this.

Anyhow I get what you are saying and agree SS with plastic cover should suffice.

[Blackened]

FFS, Can we change the spelling from "figure" to "fibre" of this thread casue my inner spelling Nazi coupled with my OCD is going to give me a stroke.

Corrected the typo in the original topic title.

[ailar]

FFS, Can we change the spelling from "figure" to "fibre" of this thread casue my inner spelling Nazi coupled with my OCD is going to give me a stroke.

Sorry my typo caused you such distress