Best way to secure rifle in vise?

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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by juststarting » 25 Nov 2016, 8:55 pm

Gwion wrote:Stop being a tight arse and take it to a smith. There'll be tears when you permanently affect you new $1000+ rifle for the sake of $50!



So I took the advice. Changing the Marlin sight was easy. But BL22 just wouldn't move. While at it, sighted in Marlin with Skinner front sight and had to move the elevation receiver sight all the way up, otherwise it was shooting too low, so it too is in the shop, getting front sight trimmed. Anyhow, 1. good learning experience. 2. I feel so empty, like that feeling you get when you forget your phone at home, only heaps worse. I didn't even feel that way when I left my little terrors with a sitter for the first time. My girls belong at home, not in a workshop :(
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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by brett1868 » 25 Nov 2016, 9:02 pm

like that feeling you get when you forget your phone at home


Makes you feel empty....for me I feel liberated, just like I do on no-undie Monday :lol:
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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by juststarting » 25 Nov 2016, 9:18 pm

No! Empty!
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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by Oldbloke » 26 Nov 2016, 7:47 am

brett1868 wrote:
like that feeling you get when you forget your phone at home


Makes you feel empty....for me I feel liberated, just like I do on no-undie Monday :lol:


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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by on_one_wheel » 26 Nov 2016, 10:28 am

brett1868 wrote:
like that feeling you get when you forget your phone at home


Makes you feel empty....for me I feel liberated, just like I do on no-undie Monday :lol:


Same ... I love not having a phone.

I'm more likely to turn around and head back home If I've forgotten my pocket knife.
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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by Gwion » 27 Nov 2016, 9:53 am

juststarting wrote:
Gwion wrote:Stop being a tight arse and take it to a smith. There'll be tears when you permanently affect you new $1000+ rifle for the sake of $50!



So I took the advice. Changing the Marlin sight was easy. But BL22 just wouldn't move. While at it, sighted in Marlin with Skinner front sight and had to move the elevation receiver sight all the way up, otherwise it was shooting too low, so it too is in the shop, getting front sight trimmed. Anyhow, 1. good learning experience. 2. I feel so empty, like that feeling you get when you forget your phone at home, only heaps worse. I didn't even feel that way when I left my little terrors with a sitter for the first time. My girls belong at home, not in a workshop :(


Glad you got it sorted, mate. Don't worry, you'll be able to take them out on a date soon enough....
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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by brett1868 » 27 Nov 2016, 11:40 pm

I'm in a similar position trying to remove the rear sight of a Colt pistol. Has to be driven L-R looking from the rear and no matter how hard I hit it with the hammer and punch it didn't budge. I'm thinking to strip the slide and put it in the oven to see if a little heat will expand the metal enough to loosen the GI Joe Kung Fu grip the sight has on the slide.
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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by Oldbloke » 28 Nov 2016, 5:44 am

brett1868 wrote:I'm in a similar position trying to remove the rear sight of a Colt pistol. Has to be driven L-R looking from the rear and no matter how hard I hit it with the hammer and punch it didn't budge. I'm thinking to strip the slide and put it in the oven to see if a little heat will expand the metal enough to loosen the GI Joe Kung Fu grip the sight has on the slide.



Try the freezer first.
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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by brett1868 » 28 Nov 2016, 7:56 am

Oldbloke wrote:
brett1868 wrote:I'm in a similar position trying to remove the rear sight of a Colt pistol. Has to be driven L-R looking from the rear and no matter how hard I hit it with the hammer and punch it didn't budge. I'm thinking to strip the slide and put it in the oven to see if a little heat will expand the metal enough to loosen the GI Joe Kung Fu grip the sight has on the slide.



Try the freezer first.


The slide is alloy and the sight steel, if I freeze it the alloy will shrink and grip the sight even tighter I believe. Heating should expand the alloy and loosen the dovetail with the added benefit of melting any Loctite that may have been used. I used to race 1/5 Scale RC cars and to remove bearings the crankcase had to be heated so I'm confident that heats the way to go. I'm not going to heat it too much but just enough to see if the sight can be persuaded to move. If that fails then I'll invest the big $$ on a proper sight pushing tool with all the bits to cover all the pistols.
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Re: Best way to secure rifle in vise?

Post by Oldbloke » 28 Nov 2016, 8:36 am

Im not sure of the sight, would need to see. You seem to understand what happens. But as you have 2 materials with a differing rate of expansion then putting it in the freezer should be enough break the loctite bond. Will that be enoigh, not sure.
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