Maddco Vs Swan

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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by SCJ429 » 09 Feb 2019, 8:42 am

Smiley wrote:I'll never own another Maddco.


I have had the opposite experience, the best barrel I have ever owned was a Maddco, it shot in the .100 and I have bought Maddco as my first choice. I have seen Maddco barrels win National competitions and been beaten by guys using these barrels. I have never used a Swan barrel but have used Pac Nor, RDT, Hardy, Benchmark and Shillen.
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by Bill » 09 Feb 2019, 10:20 am

Had a TSE barrel installed by Swan and it shot 3 shot 0.5moa allday

Had TSE put a few of their own barrels on and work was top notch just took a bit longer than I woulda liked

Never bothered with Maddco
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by Homer » 12 Feb 2019, 8:31 am

G'Day Fella's,

Mitch, I'm probably biased about this, and I have never owned a Swan barrel.

There is a reason why MADDCO barrels are so difficult to obtain ................ there is a long back log of orders for them.
This is because they are so good (One of the Best barrels made), and everybody wants them.
This leave to door open to others, to fill the void (enter Mr Swan, etc).
Accuracy International made their name using MADDCO barrels, and a whole heap of other people (like myself), have used them for years.

I could go on but I'm sure you get the picture (they are worth the wait!).

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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by SCJ429 » 13 Feb 2019, 7:14 pm

What calibers do you chamber your Maddco barrels in Homer and what do you use them for?
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by rustypic » 04 Mar 2019, 9:21 pm

Here's my 2 bobs worth. I was quoted $1200 for a Madco barrel and another customer in the shop told me not to touch them, so I did a lot of googling. The result was about 50/50 for Madco, not a bad comment about Swan barrels, in fact a lot of great comments re accuracy and quality, so I went for Swan. I was quoted $650 for a chrome/moly barrel that I requested with no frills, I want to keep the rifle as original as possible. Here's the kicker, they have had the action for just on 5 months and not a single word from them, I have been sending them little reminders but nothing. If I ever get my barrel I will post my findings after I test it but if you want a Swan barrel don't be in a hurry and request a time frame !!!
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by SCJ429 » 05 Mar 2019, 8:30 pm

You were quoted $1200 for the barrel? Was that chambered and fitted? My gunsmith charges me under $1000 fitted and takes less than a week once I drop off the rifle.
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by bigrich » 06 Mar 2019, 5:00 am

SCJ429 wrote:You were quoted $1200 for the barrel? Was that chambered and fitted? My gunsmith charges me under $1000 fitted and takes less than a week once I drop off the rifle.


If you can get a one week turnaround your very lucky. Trying to get any gunsmith work done around Brisbane is a big lesson in patience. I rang one and was told ring back in three months to see if they could take on my rebarrel job ! I’ve had work done by swan, and yeah, it’s a bit a wait as they are always very busy
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by SCJ429 » 06 Mar 2019, 7:02 am

I get that everyone is busy but I cannot be without a rifle for three months. They would just have it sitting around for most of that time. If you have your new barrel and the reamer does it still take months? John Gilles is in Brisbane and his turn around must be better than that. You might have to book months ahead but assuming it is just metalwork the time your rifle is in his shop must only be short.

I give my smith the specs for a new barrel and pay for it, he rings me when the barrel arrives and he has time to fit it. This process may take months. I drop the rifle off with the reamer and pick it up a week later
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by Ziad » 06 Mar 2019, 7:45 am

Was taking to someone about john Giles, he recons it will be a 12 month build for his benchrest rifle.

Maybe gunsmiths should do is take a deposit, and enter your name in the book, when they get say 2 weeks away then ask you to post it down to them. But maybe that will increase the wait times when more.
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by bigrich » 06 Mar 2019, 8:05 am

I had a rebarrel done on a model 70 222 done by swan before Christmas. I was told a 6-8 week turnaround, it did take 8 till it was ready for pickup. When there is more involved smithing involved, it can take a lot longer. Allan’s expertise is in demand, especially for older stuff like martini and m17’s and such, so he’s usually got a mountain of work in front of him. He’s over 70, and does well to go at the pace he does. His son grant does the barrel work. This might be more info than is necessary, but I thought I would put the human side of this into perspective for some of you who haven’t had the opportunity to meet and talk with these fellas. Cheers
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by Ziad » 06 Mar 2019, 8:15 am

Mate sorry I wasn't appearing rude, I got a barrel done by Alan and I a.m very happy it shoots like a laser. The blueing matches the gun just perfect. For the price it cost me including shipping you can't even get a maddco barrel let alone fitting.

He has mad skills and reasonably priced, no wonder he's got a wait time.
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by bigrich » 06 Mar 2019, 9:18 am

Ziad wrote:Mate sorry I wasn't appearing rude, I got a barrel done by Alan and I a.m very happy it shoots like a laser. The blueing matches the gun just perfect. For the price it cost me including shipping you can't even get a maddco barrel let alone fitting.

He has mad skills and reasonably priced, no wonder he's got a wait time.


All good mate, I didn’t take ya for being rude, I can understand the frustration of waiting, I’ve been in that position a few times. I just wanted to put a human side to what goes on with this particular family business.
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by deanp100 » 06 Mar 2019, 8:10 pm

It was only a little while ago that Alan had quick turn around times and did good work. Word spread quickly and next minute. ..... unfortunately it is hard to have the best of both worlds
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by rustypic » 18 Mar 2019, 9:08 am

SCJ429 wrote:You were quoted $1200 for the barrel? Was that chambered and fitted? My gunsmith charges me under $1000 fitted and takes less than a week once I drop off the rifle.


Yeah mate that was from go to whoa, chambered and fitted stainless. The bloke quoted me the same for TSE. I'm pretty sure he just wanted to sell me a new rifle that he just happened to have in stock. ;)
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by Homer » 23 Mar 2019, 10:09 am

Homer wrote:G'Day Fella's,

Mitch, I'm probably biased about this, and I have never owned a Swan barrel.

There is a reason why MADDCO barrels are so difficult to obtain ................ there is a long back log of orders for them.
This is because they are so good (One of the Best barrels made), and everybody wants them.
This leave to door open to others, to fill the void (enter Mr Swan, etc).
Accuracy International made their name using MADDCO barrels, and a whole heap of other people (like myself), have used them for years.

I could go on but I'm sure you get the picture (they are worth the wait!).

Doh!
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G'Day Fella's,

Just an update on my above post.
I have now seen a Swan barrel in use, and I was exceedingly impressed with how it looks and shot.

Hope that helps

Avagreatweekendeh!
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by SCJ429 » 23 Mar 2019, 3:51 pm

How did it shoot?
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Re: Maddco Vs Swan

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 23 Mar 2019, 11:54 pm

Now shooting the same sized groups at 200 with a swan barrel as what i was at 100. A happy camper
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