Stoked with .22 Dasher build

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Stoked with .22 Dasher build

Post by marksman » 08 Dec 2017, 4:31 pm

I'm so stoked :drinks:
my new reamer came and Ive sent all the gear off to the smith for him to put together
fair dinkum going off like a frog in a sock :drinks:
may have it back before xmass :thumbsup:
oh yea nearly forgot it's a dasher, a 22 dasher

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Post by Daddybang » 08 Dec 2017, 5:28 pm

Nice!!!! Looking forward to some pictures :drinks: :drinks:
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Post by duncan61 » 08 Dec 2017, 7:21 pm

You will be the marksman with a dasher
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Post by pete1 » 09 Dec 2017, 6:04 am

Daddybang wrote:Nice!!!! Looking forward to some pictures :drinks: :drinks:


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Post by marksman » 09 Dec 2017, 4:48 pm

duncan61 wrote:You will be the marksman with a dasher

that's why I am the marksman this will be my second :thumbsup:

anyway I will give a bit of an account on this build
I bought this mauser 98 recently from some very good people in NSW
it came transport damaged so the seller and I came to an amicable compromise
this is the photo that advertised the rifle
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it caught my eye straight away as I admit to be an obsessive mauserholic
you never really know what you are buying from elsewhere until you have it in your hands
firstly when I held the rifle I saw the transport damage that as I said was amicably sorted out no drama's
once home I had a real good look over this old full bore rifle
I could see it had been someones very cherished prized possession at one time, it soon would be again
it has a custom trigger, a real walnut stock, a lithgow made black mountain 308 palma barrel (still in very good order)
it is an old K98 Kriegsmodell "war model" action, when the germans were under the pump in war time they omitted some things such as the bolt rail guide and drilled round holes under the bolt instead of oval for cooling/venting in the bolt
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I wanted to shoot this rifle but because of the damage I decided to just rebarrel to a smaller cal as I didn't think it would take the recoil of the 308 for long,
if it didn't shoot that is what I would do anyway
I have a 6mm dasher that shoots dots and a good friend has a 22 dasher that really impressed me so that's what I decided to do
here is a photo of (left to right) 6mm dasher, 6mm br case, 22 dasher, 22 br
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the dasher will do what the 22-250 ackley will do just more efficient
I have repaired the transport damage, fitted a rear pillar and refinished the stock so far
here is a photo of the pillar installed and what I made the pillar from :lol:
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I have also polished the rails, ground and polished the feed lips (feeds perfectly), checked the lugs for contact
and now sent it all off to have the barrel chambered and fitted
I will post more as it happens :thumbsup:
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Post by bigrich » 09 Dec 2017, 5:18 pm

hey marksman did you make that pillar out of a tyre inflater ?
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Post by marksman » 09 Dec 2017, 5:20 pm

bigrich wrote:hey marksman did you make that pillar out of a tyre inflater ?


yep the tubing :thumbsup:
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Post by Daddybang » 09 Dec 2017, 5:44 pm

marksman wrote:
bigrich wrote:hey marksman did you make that pillar out of a tyre inflater ?


yep the tubing :thumbsup:


Damn close to genius :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks:
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Post by Gamerancher » 10 Dec 2017, 10:07 am

Pretty sure the holes at the bottom of the bolt are there to vent any gases from a blown primer / ruptured case down through the magazine rather than back into the shooters eye.
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Post by marksman » 10 Dec 2017, 11:44 am

sungazer wrote:Very nice looking gun. The wood has some nice lines and a good looking grain. You obviously have to put a new barrel on it for it to be a 22 yes? or does it get sleeved somehow.


yes a different 1 in 8 twist 22 cal stainless match palma barrel that I got before buying this rifle for the 22 dasher project but for another rifle as doner,
some things are meant to be, it has a lithgow made black mountain 308 palma barrel now
so apart from rebarreling, a few tweaks and renovating it will be as made, it's taken me quite a while to save and buy the bits for it to happen
this rifle was originally a custom build, the action, bolt and stock all have the same marking's from when it was made by the builder
I'm pretty stoked :drinks:
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Post by marksman » 10 Dec 2017, 12:25 pm

Gamerancher wrote:Pretty sure the holes at the bottom of the bolt are there to vent any gases from a blown primer / ruptured case down through the magazine rather than back into the shooters eye.


you are right Gamerancher they are vent holes
my other dasher was having problems with primers cookie cutting when I was fireforming from br cases
I did not have any blowback at my face at all, the mauser action vented the gas down the mag well and not at me
I have had pieced primer's and blown primers from other big brand name makes of rifle that would have blinded me if I did not have glasses on when it happened
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Post by Gamerancher » 10 Dec 2017, 10:16 pm

Yeah, Mr P Mauser did have some idea on how to design a bolt-action. :allegedly: :lol:
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Post by marksman » 21 Dec 2017, 10:16 am

guess what :D :clap:
it is here :drinks:

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now for bedding, a bit of blueing and case forming :D
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Post by Daddybang » 21 Dec 2017, 12:00 pm

marksman wrote:guess what :D :clap:
it is here :drinks:

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now for bedding, a bit of blueing and case forming :D


Very nice!!! :drinks: santa was on the ball!! :lol: :drinks: :drinks:
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 21 Dec 2017, 1:13 pm

:thumbsup: :D Merry Christmas
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Post by Apollo » 21 Dec 2017, 1:54 pm

marksman wrote:
Gamerancher wrote:Pretty sure the holes at the bottom of the bolt are there to vent any gases from a blown primer / ruptured case down through the magazine rather than back into the shooters eye.


you are right Gamerancher they are vent holes
my other dasher was having problems with primers cookie cutting when I was fireforming from br cases
I did not have any blowback at my face at all, the mauser action vented the gas down the mag well and not at me
I have had pieced primer's and blown primers from other big brand name makes of rifle that would have blinded me if I did not have glasses on when it happened


I hope you realise that Pierced / Blanked / Cookie Cut Primers is a fault that can be easily rectified and should not happen at all if everything is up to specifics. Typical of in the first place using soft primers in a high pressure case design. Typical of using Federal Primers which are the softest and thinnest cup design. The other is too much headspace and / or too much firing pin clearance around the bolt face.

Just a mention as I have had a couple of pierced primers and that is two too many so rectified the problem straight up then never another ever happened. Typically it happened with a 6mmBR / Dasher / 6.5x47 Case and worse I have heard from an AI version. Savage Rifle Bolts are the worst offenders I know of with way too much clearance around the firing pin.

Plenty of 6mm Dashers used in 500 Metre Fly but never heard of a Primer problem in any of the custom rifles.
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Post by marksman » 21 Dec 2017, 3:12 pm

your are right about the primers, the problem after examination was the thickness of the primer cup that was supposed to be 25 thou but was 20 thou
I was using rem 7.5 small rifle that are supposed to be the 25 thou, maybe a mix up as the 6.5's small rifle are supposed to be 20 thou cup thickness
anyway the problem is fixed as I changed to cci br and 450 small primers,
blanked / cookie cut primers only happen with small rifle primers for those who dont know

and yes santa is on the ball :drinks: , I wont be shooting it for xmas as I am fireforming with shotgun powder and wax first, I will be after though
it gives me time to bed and blue touch ups :thumbsup:

you would not believe how many visitors I have had today :violin:

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Post by sungazer » 21 Dec 2017, 4:39 pm

I haven't had that problem yet with small primers but am using them in a few calibres. I use the BR4 if that makes any difference. I would be interested to see any pics of the problem ones and what you think caused the issue. As you know my only issue so far with primers not going off due to a sensitive headspace, perhaps low protrusion firing pin and certainly a lot less energy in the firing pin. The low energy is good for target the rifle doesn't move when firing as compared to the hard hitting Rem 700 which you can clearly see a movement when dryfiring no matter how stable the rifle. But the primers go off.
I must stress so do the others if you use once fired or more cases that fit the chamber.
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