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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 29 Apr 2018, 1:01 pm

Hi guys...
I disappeared for a bit, & so apologise for not responding to your reply posts.
Without going into much detail, i feel i should give some reason to my apparent ignorance...
There i was (nearly) ready to bed my brno & before i had a chance to read any of your suggestions i recieved news of a death & so ive been otherwise consumed with doing what i could to help my daughter sort out that mess, & ive not had the mental time or space to log on at all.

Ive even had fox & cat skins (that should be cuddly little rugs by now) still sitting in a pickle just outside the back door all that time with barely even a stir, & not even touched a piece of brass, let alone seen a rifle in this time...
(Im in so much shooting withdrawal its not funny...!!..perfect weather now & fox season & im home & hating it...but there's lots of foxes out there that are happy ive been otherwise preoccupied).

Anyway, all is sorted now, & ive got some catch-up to do...lots of brass to size & load & a shoulder that is threatning to self dislocate if i dont beat it with recoil from a few butt stocks.

Ill revisit this issue of my brno very soon i hope...in the mean time, apologies for not responding & thanks to all who posted valuble info up for me...!!!
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Daddybang » 29 Apr 2018, 1:16 pm

Sorry to hear about ya troubles stix but welcome back mate!! :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by marksman » 29 Apr 2018, 2:42 pm

+1 :drinks:
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Post by bigrich » 29 Apr 2018, 3:30 pm

Daddybang wrote:Sorry to hear about ya troubles stix but welcome back mate!! :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:


+2 stix. condolances to you and your family mate
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Post by Member-Deleted » 29 Apr 2018, 4:42 pm

G;day stix sorry to hear about the bad news mate and hope all is good now
just take it easy with your withdrawals and don't over do it mate
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 29 Apr 2018, 7:20 pm

Thanks guys...
All is good now...it's my girl that'll gets hits hardest..
And grandad...thanks for the sentiment, but let me assure you in order to save barrels, ill have at least 4 rifles on the next bench im sitting at...sheesh...!!
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Post by Bent Arrow » 29 Apr 2018, 8:16 pm

Sorry to hear that Stix, always difficult times. Glad to hear you've got the train back on track
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 07 Dec 2018, 11:05 am

Can anyone tell me--does an action screw need to be a snug fit to an aluminium pillar...?

I was going to buy some ali tube to replace the rolled pin in the stock of the brno mod 2.

The existing clearance is about 2.2mm in total (1.1mm all around the action screw).

If i buy the ali tube thats readily available, there will be approx 1.25mm clearance all around the action screw.

Will this suffice for a .22 or should i get something turned up...?
(I dont have a lathe)...
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Rod_outbak » 07 Dec 2018, 11:40 am

Stix,

[Sorry to hijack this...]

I have a neighbor who has resurrected his brothers Brno Model 2.

It looks to have been manufactured in 1976. Serial No is 237 XXX, and he assures me the barrel has 'CZ Brno Mod. 2.'

I wondered if you knew anything much about the differences between the Model 2 and the Model 2E, and if you knew what serial number was the end of the Brno-made versions, before it moved to the CZ-made model?
I have read on the rimfire forums that there was a number of them assembled by CZ using the leftover parts from the Brno production, but I wondered if you knew any more info on the Model 2, and how it differed?

Also, neighbour is moaning that he has run out of Remington Yellow jackets(discontinued), and that the CCI stingers arent anywhere near as effective in knockdown compared to the Remingtons. What do you run in yours?

Sorry to hear about the family grief; I hope things settle down for you and yours.

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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 07 Dec 2018, 1:07 pm

Hi Rod...
I dont mind a hijack...but i do hope i get my answer... :D

If by family grief you're refering to me--that was earlier this year & lets just say its all dead, buried & over with... :)
So i want to get back to bedding my brno.

I dont know differences between 2 & 2e...mine is 1970 mod 2.

I run subsonic hollowpoints for hunting...if you hit them in the right spot everything i shoot with them falls over & not every rabbit runs away from firing subs... :thumbsup:
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Post by bigfellascott » 07 Dec 2018, 1:40 pm

Stix wrote:Hi Rod...
I dont mind a hijack...but i do hope i get my answer... :D

If by family grief you're refering to me--that was earlier this year & lets just say its all dead, buried & over with... :)
So i want to get back to bedding my brno.

I dont know differences between 2 & 2e...mine is 1970 mod 2.

I run subsonic hollowpoints for hunting...if you hit them in the right spot everything i shoot with them falls over & not every rabbit runs away from firing subs... :thumbsup:


The E has the hogsback style stock comb, I think the E is for Euro but don't quote me on it. :thumbsup:

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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by sungazer » 07 Dec 2018, 3:59 pm

Stix you should have clearance around your action screws. It is often quite a bit larger than what you have. Look at the pillars Lumly might have some dimensions on them. It is only the last 5 mm that is more the size of the screw/ bolt that acts as a washer of sorts. The clearance is there just to allow that little bit of natural movement and misalignment that is always going to happen. I tighten mine down pretty tight one things have settled.
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Chappo » 07 Dec 2018, 9:20 pm

Hey rod.
Found this on rimfire central.
Just about everything you need to know about brno’s is on that forum if you have a week to read it all.
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Rod_outbak » 07 Dec 2018, 10:05 pm

Chappo,

Many thanks; that gives me a few more ideas.

I'll have to take the time and go trawling through there again!

Thanks again,

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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 08 Dec 2018, 7:39 am

Thanks Sungazer... appreciate that...:thumbsup:

Ill buy the ali tube then & give it a crack...

Only thing is its a 6 metre length...i need less than 30mm.
I.guess thats just another bit of stuff ill have lying around that ill never throw out & never use... :roll:
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Post by marksman » 08 Dec 2018, 9:17 am

why ali tube Stix :unknown:

I'm not saying it's no good but have a look at what I put in the rear tang of the 22 dasher mate
its just a tube to stop the crushing effect and so you can tighten up the king screws tighter :thumbsup:
dont make whatever you use to thick or you will compromise the stock by having to thin it out where you fit it
for one of my rifles I bought the brownells ali set but I had to thin it down first, never did it again though
and as has been said make sure it has plenty of clearance around the screw, you do not want the screw to touch when fitted :thumbsup:

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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 08 Dec 2018, 10:18 am

Hey Marksman...

Ali tube only because everything i see & read says aluminium pillars etc.

As you say its just to stop crushing...
I actually got hold of an original brno pin/tube but think ill put a tube in incase i bodge it... :unknown:
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I dont want to cut up my tyre inflator for the project...cos mine works :lol:

So i guess using steel makes sense now you mention it...as you say can do it up tighty tight.

The original is about 9.2mm OD, 1.1mm thick
The Aluminium tube i was gonna buy is 10mm OD with 1.6mm wall so as i said above there is more clearance for the screw than original...& i figured drilling out the stock a further .4mmin radius wont compromise it any... :unknown:

Guess ill fire up google now & see if i can find some steel tube in same dimensions...
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Post by Stix » 08 Dec 2018, 10:41 am

Nope...well well that wont be happening...

Apparently steel tube isn't made that small...well the smallest is apparently 12 odd mm with 1.6 wall. :unknown:

I shoulda done steel trade & learned how to use a lathe...!! :roll:
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Post by Gamerancher » 08 Dec 2018, 11:07 am

Take a hacksaw with you to the local wrecking yard or scrap yard that has old machinery. You might find some steel hydraulic / pneumatic lines that fit the bill.
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Rod_outbak » 08 Dec 2018, 1:54 pm

Stix,

If you can wait a few days, there are some different thickeness lengths of steel tube here; looks like grandfather stocked up on various sizes for tube magazines.

I can measure them all, and let you know.
Probably wont be until tomorrow, if you can wait that long.
Also, we have 3 or 4 of those 'Red Devil' butane weeder wands, and the steel tube that runs down to the burner reads just under 10mm dia, but I dont know internal wall thickness. One of these weeders has croaked, so I can chop one up if it would help?

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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Rod_outbak » 08 Dec 2018, 1:57 pm

Also,

I see Rebel have an action screw sleeve for a Model 1 for sale ($30)
https://www.rebelgunworks.com.au/produc ... screw-tube

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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by sungazer » 08 Dec 2018, 11:18 pm

i had the advantage of having a lathe and making to measure. I also had a pair of Lumly pillars which are SS. I would look at these and see if they are long enough so they can just be cut down. He makes really good quality stuff.
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Rod_outbak » 11 Dec 2018, 10:38 am

Stix,

I checked the lengths of tubing in the gunroom here, but none are smaller than roughly 1/2". Plenty of a wide range of rod diameters, but no tubing smaller.

I did find this online, though. Not exactly the sizes you are chasing, but pretty close, and both steel and alloy versions:
https://www.smallparts.com.au/store/par ... und/a/101/

I still have a recollection of seeing something like steel brake line off a truck that looked to be around that diameter, but I'm yet to get over to the shed to see if I was right.

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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by marksman » 11 Dec 2018, 6:22 pm

ally or steel wont really matter its just dont spend your inheritance on it :drinks:
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by 17Dave » 12 Jan 2019, 9:46 am

Im thinking of bedding my model 2 hence got on to this thread.
I bought an alluminium arrow to make my pillars.
Can cut it quickly and square with a plumbing pipe cutter.
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 12 Jan 2019, 3:44 pm

17Dave wrote:Im thinking of bedding my model 2 hence got on to this thread.
I bought an alluminium arrow to make my pillars.
Can cut it quickly and square with a plumbing pipe cutter.


Im a Carpenter so i dont trust anything to do with a Plumber...!!! :lol:

Keep us posted Dave, still havnt started mine yet...

I intend to square up in a spinning drill... :)
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Post by Oldbloke » 12 Jan 2019, 4:38 pm

What about copper pipe? Comes in many sizes
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 13 Jan 2019, 1:04 am

I ended up getting a 6 metre length of alloy tube, 10mm OD 1.6mm gauge, for under 13 dollars...so unless i find steel, thats what im using.

I wonder how many litres of bedding compound it would take to use up the other 5.85 metres of alloy tube... :unknown:

So on that note...if anyone wants a bit, it'll be laying in my shed doing sfa for the rest of my life so you're welcome to it... :drinks:
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Re: Brno Mod 2 bedding

Post by Stix » 06 Feb 2019, 1:03 pm

Maybe a silly question...

In relation to the pillar that houses the action screw in these rifles (or any rifles for that matter)..

Is it necessary to glue/epoxy this into the stock seperately first...? (My guess is not... :unknown: )
Or not a big deal on a .22...? :unknown:

I imagine it wont move regardless... :unknown:..
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