Shed find - old knife with broken blade

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Shed find - old knife with broken blade

Post by alby » 22 Dec 2016, 5:21 pm

Continuing of the shed cleanout at dad's has unearthed this.

I remember digging this up on the roadside out the front of home. My best guess would be about 1979 when i was 7. I found it then in it's current condition, and did a good job of hiding it lol.

Apparently it was my older brother's. He'd bought it in the early 70s and lost it.

I wouldn't mind finding someone to make a new blade for it.
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Re: Shed find - old knife with broken blade

Post by on_one_wheel » 22 Dec 2016, 8:21 pm

What a great excuse to try your hand at making a blade.
If you don't have the equipment to do it yourself or can't be stuffed there are some knife makers around that could knock something up for you.
There is one in Hahndorf SA.

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Re: Shed find - old knife with broken blade

Post by alby » 23 Dec 2016, 10:21 am

Unfortunately my skill level is zero when it comes to metalwork :(
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Post by Supaduke » 23 Dec 2016, 10:30 am

Everyone's metalwork experience started at the same level ;)
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Post by alby » 23 Dec 2016, 11:59 am

Supaduke wrote:Everyone's metalwork experience started at the same level ;)


True Dat lol. Watching YouTube as we speak lol.
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Post by bigfellascott » 23 Dec 2016, 1:29 pm

Have a look around there are companies that have knife blanks already to attach handles too, not sure about that particular set up but work further investigation or you could probably get one of the knifemakers to do something with the handles for you.

Deernaster over on AHN makes some nice knives and may be able to help (AHN is Australian Hunting Network) he's a nice fella and only too happy to help I would imagine.
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Post by tom604 » 23 Dec 2016, 1:32 pm

you may have trouble with the handle,she seems a bit worn and while that adds to the charm it can be a bugger to fix up,,as "on one wheel" said you can get a professional to fix it or have a go yourself,,id go with the "do it your self" option, buy a bit of steel,hit it with the cutting blade,grind it to shape, heat treat (heatbeads and a hair dryer) file and sand, a bit of glue and your done :thumbsup:


there may be a little bit more to it than that :oops: but youtube can fill in the blanks :D let us know how it goes :thumbsup:
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Post by alby » 23 Dec 2016, 3:23 pm

Pulled it apart. Handle pretty strong. Even the leather spacers still ok. Some numbering on the tang looks like S 558 5/1 or 511.

Last pic is a blade found online which might suit.
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Post by bigfellascott » 23 Dec 2016, 11:12 pm

That's the way I'd be going mate, worth further investigation at the least but looks like it would work alright. :thumbsup:
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Re: Shed find - old knife with broken blade

Post by Gwion » 27 Dec 2016, 9:56 pm

You'll need some pretty good measurements of the baulster nut and know what the dimensions on your replacement tang are.

The blade on that knife was most likely clip point with a deep sabre grind (like a Bowie), if you want to get it back close to the original, which was obviously poorly tempered and too brittle. I recognise to kind of knife. There were heaps of them around for sale in the 80's and they weren't expensive. While the handle have a certain charm, a custom replacement for the blade will likely be expensive.
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Post by alby » 29 Dec 2016, 9:05 am

Thanks Gwion. Yeah I figure a custom blade job would be expensive. Given I wouldn't put it to much practical use, more just for aesthetic and sentimental purposes, I might have a go at knocking something up.

Another possible option is I have a good mate in England whose son is a smithy and specialises in armour and swords. I might give him a bell after the silly season.
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Post by Die Judicii » 11 Jan 2017, 3:15 pm

Gwion wrote:The blade on that knife was most likely clip point with a deep sabre grind (like a Bowie), if you want to get it back close to the original, which was obviously poorly tempered and too brittle. I recognise to kind of knife. There were heaps of them around for sale in the 80's and they weren't expensive. While the handle have a certain charm, a custom replacement for the blade will likely be expensive.


Could also be a case of the Brother using it to pry something,, and stretching the friendship a tad too far.
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Post by Gwion » 11 Jan 2017, 6:41 pm

True, but a well tempered blade should stand up to a bit of that sort of abuse without snapping. I was just pointing out that is is a sign of a cheaper knife and spending a heap of cash rebuilding what was a pretty ordinary, cheap, basic knife is kind of money and time wasted.
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Post by Die Judicii » 12 Jan 2017, 3:21 pm

Gwion wrote:True, but a well tempered blade should stand up to a bit of that sort of abuse without snapping. I was just pointing out that is is a sign of a cheaper knife and spending a heap of cash rebuilding what was a pretty ordinary, cheap, basic knife is kind of money and time wasted.


Totally agreed, but a lot of refurbishments, restorations cost quite a bit regardless.

And if your doing it for sentimental reasons,,, who gives a sh!t how much it costs.
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Re: Shed find - old knife with broken blade

Post by TheGreenwolf » 24 Mar 2017, 2:16 pm

i have this exact knife at home but my one is intact, i will send a picture of the original blade, i have restored it a little but need to do more if anyone knows a good product do this i would like to know.
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Re: Shed find - old knife with broken blade

Post by TheGreenwolf » 24 Mar 2017, 5:25 pm

basically i would like to polish mine up get the pits out of it.
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Post by TheGreenwolf » 24 Mar 2017, 5:26 pm

oh yea, the knife was made in england but i cant quite work out the enscription.
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