Good Quality, heavy, fireproof gun safe?

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Good Quality, heavy, fireproof gun safe?

Post by Wraithcat » 09 Oct 2019, 1:32 am

Hiyall,

I'm new to these forums and am hoping that someone might be able to be of assistance.

Last year, I lost everything in a fire and now am in the market for a fireproof gun safe. As I rent, it can't be bolted to the floor, so has to be over 150 kg. I'll be looking to store both blades (swords) and firearms, along with documents and electronic storage that will reside inside smaller fireproof storage that I already own, so I'm really looking at something rated at twenty, or 30 plus guns.

Ideally, I want something that can't be pried open, or cut through with ease. After all, there is no point in having a safe if anyone with a circular saw can just cut it open and walk out with the contents. I'm guessing about 3mm steel, or thereabouts as a minimum.

I've watched a few YouTube videos on gun safes, but none of the brands they mention seem to be available here in Australia.

Any assistance, or advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Good Quality, heavy, fireproof gun safe?

Post by bladeracer » 09 Oct 2019, 6:46 am

Renting doesn't prevent you from securing your safe, it just requires you to patch the holes afterwards.
Maybe buy a big safe and line it with several layers of fibrous cement sheet or concrete.
Even the cheap safes are 3mm sheet.
During fire season we take our important stuff into a storage place we keep in town.

I have some "20 rifle" safes, which are large enough that I can keep some take-down rifles and guns in the bolt compartment as well. The main compartment is big enough that I have managed to jam sixteen unscoped rifles in it occassionally, but I think 20 would be a stretch. I generally only keep eight scoped rifles comfortably in one, any more makes access difficult.
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Re: Good Quality, heavy, fireproof gun safe?

Post by Ziad » 09 Oct 2019, 6:52 am

Most readily available gun safes are not fire rated. Maybe look at old bank safes... but they can get quite heavy. In Bunnings the fire proof safes are usually lot bigger and heavier construction


Or talk to a specialist safe builder or seller.
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Re: Good Quality, heavy, fireproof gun safe?

Post by 8x57 » 09 Oct 2019, 7:18 am

Try Spika they have a range of fire proof safes, that are over 150 kg in weight. I have had one for Six years and couldn’t be happier With it.
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Re: Good Quality, heavy, fireproof gun safe?

Post by straightshooter » 09 Oct 2019, 7:33 am

Just about anything in safes is available, the only limitation is money.
Visit an actual specialist safe dealer (not a gunshop or locksmith) and ask to look at second hand "fireproof book safes" that meet your dimension criteria.
You may be surprised how they compare with gunshop fireproof safes.
Downside is you will be looking at 500kg or more.
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Re: Good Quality, heavy, fireproof gun safe?

Post by SCJ429 » 09 Oct 2019, 2:02 pm

It is difficult to insulate a big metal box, most use concrete to do this which makes them heavy and difficult to move. Even then a high intensity fire, like a house fire will toast anything inside. You can find some excellent safes made by CMI Safes. As said above, secondhand safes would be your best bet which are hard to sell because they are heavy and bulky. Be careful if the lock is U/S or has a lockout. A new lock like a KABA X10 cost $2,000 fitted.
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