Quick access handgun safe

[fnq22]

Just wondering if there is any downside to these safes and how reliable the fingerprint opening option is...Anyone use them..?

..https://www.vevor.com.au/biometric-safe ... 0505271919

and yeah i do know that using a Handgun for home self defence is not acceptable...

Edit..I'm in QLD and have other multi gun safes already but was specifically after a single gun quick-access safe as well.

[No1_49er]

I'm going to have a guess.
Made in China.
Made for the US market.
Weights 3.5kg - not likely to comply with ANY AU requirements (for handgun)
Download the app - sounds like an offshoot of TEMU
Safe your money and spent it elsewhere.

[perentie]

I have used Vevor for buying a couple of sliding drawers for under a shelf and a poly gun case. Quite impressed with the quality..
They have a shopfront in Brisbane by the look of it. Quite different from Temu.
I tried Temu once but they wanted to know all sorts of details about me so never used them and never will.
Vevor didnt do this. Just buy it and pay. End of story.

[Willie]

[quote="No1_49er"]I'm going to have a guess.
Made in China.
Made for the US market.
Weights 3.5kg - not likely to comply with ANY AU requirements (for handgun)
Download the app - sounds like an offshoot of TEMU
Safe your money and spent it elsewhere.[/quote]


Agreed. The item seems totally inadequate for Australian regulations. As said, spend your money elsewhere.

[fnq22]

I'm going to have a guess.
Made in China.
Made for the US market.
Weights 3.5kg - not likely to comply with ANY AU requirements (for handgun)
Download the app - sounds like an offshoot of TEMU
Safe your money and spent it elsewhere.

Hi mate...What about them is not compliant for handgun storage in QLD assuming they are bolted to the floor or wall..?..

[fnq22]

-.

"Agreed. The item seems totally inadequate for Australian regulations. As said, spend your money elsewhere.[/quote Willie]

Inadequate legally or perceived robustness...?

I regularly cut mild steel between 3-10mm with an angle grinder with the shroud removed and would think that most gun safes I currently have and have seen are manifestly "inadequate" and could be accessed in under a minute or so if needed..

Unfortunately i think they are mainly just a detterent but someone serious with a 100 battery operated grinder would have little problems getting the guns out..

and yeah you could probably remove one of these safes with a swift slap from the back of an axe or sledgey but likewise stick a prybar or crowbar under a 3mm regular steel safe and i think the dynabolts will soon pop..

Anyway compliance and the reliability of biometric functionality were my main concerns with this cheap device....

[fnq22]

I have used Vevor for buying a couple of sliding drawers for under a shelf and a poly gun case. Quite impressed with the quality..
They have a shopfront in Brisbane by the look of it. Quite different from Temu.
I tried Temu once but they wanted to know all sorts of details about me so never used them and never will.
Vevor didnt do this. Just buy it and pay. End of story.

Thanks for the real world experience...
The reviews look fine and as mentioned its obviously made for the US home defence market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqw-_R0ZuKE

I dont kid myself that it an impenetrable safe but access could easily be made more difficult by mounting in a location or adding structure to make getting a hammer or bar at it more difficult .

Last question is should there be any concerns with mounting one of these next to your bed..?...Would a weapons branch inspection raise any questions given the illegality of using a gun for self defence in this country..?

You have to put your safe somehere right and what could be safer then it sitting safely stored next to your person while you are asleep..?and given that my main 9mm is used daily, often twice, for dry fire practice it would be nice to be able to access it quickly and easily with the push of a button.

[No1_49er]

I have used Vevor for buying a couple of sliding drawers for under a shelf and a poly gun case. Quite impressed with the quality..
They have a shopfront in Brisbane by the look of it. Quite different from Temu.
I tried Temu once but they wanted to know all sorts of details about me so never used them and never will.
Vevor didnt do this. Just buy it and pay. End of story.

Thanks for the real world experience...
The reviews look fine and as mentioned its obviously made for the US home defence market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqw-_R0ZuKE

I dont kid myself that it an impenetrable safe but access could easily be made more difficult by mounting in a location or adding structure to make getting a hammer or bar at it more difficult .

Last question is should there be any concerns with mounting one of these next to your bed..?...Would a weapons branch inspection raise any questions given the illegality of using a gun for self defence in this country..?

You have to put your safe somehere right and what could be safer then it sitting safely stored next to your person while you are asleep..?and given that my main 9mm is used daily, often twice, for dry fire practice it would be nice to be able to access it quickly and easily with the push of a button.

Here's a little challenge for you.
Go right ahead and buy one. Get plod to visit and inspect. AND tell you it's compliant.
When that's happened, let us all know how you got on.
I did take a look at the on-line picture of the "safe" and a rough "guesstimate" would be that you'd be able to measure of much more than a millimetre and a half thickness. Good luck with your "security".

[fnq22]

I have used Vevor for buying a couple of sliding drawers for under a shelf and a poly gun case. Quite impressed with the quality..
They have a shopfront in Brisbane by the look of it. Quite different from Temu.
I tried Temu once but they wanted to know all sorts of details about me so never used them and never will.
Vevor didnt do this. Just buy it and pay. End of story.

Thanks for the real world experience...
The reviews look fine and as mentioned its obviously made for the US home defence market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqw-_R0ZuKE

I dont kid myself that it an impenetrable safe but access could easily be made more difficult by mounting in a location or adding structure to make getting a hammer or bar at it more difficult .

Last question is should there be any concerns with mounting one of these next to your bed..?...Would a weapons branch inspection raise any questions given the illegality of using a gun for self defence in this country..?

You have to put your safe somehere right and what could be safer then it sitting safely stored next to your person while you are asleep..?and given that my main 9mm is used daily, often twice, for dry fire practice it would be nice to be able to access it quickly and easily with the push of a button.

Here's a little challenge for you.
Go right ahead and buy one. Get plod to visit and inspect. AND tell you it's compliant.
When that's happened, let us all know how you got on.
I did take a look at the on-line picture of the "safe" and a rough "guesstimate" would be that you'd be able to measure of much more than a millimetre and a half thickness. Good luck with your "security".

The claimed 3mm thickness is thicker material then 2 of my current safes one of which is a "Big iron" imported by Niooa and all have been checked by the "plod" and are apparently compliant...

I asked you what about this safe didnt adhere to the current storage requirements in QLD because I cant see anything in the legislation which might preclude it and all you can do is show your total ignorance and give a condescending response......

But at least it gives you a good ego boost huh smartarse.....

[No1_49er]

The claimed 3mm thickness is thicker material then 2 of my current safes one of which is a "Big iron" imported by Niooa and all have been checked by the "plod" and are apparently compliant...

I asked you what about this safe didnt adhere to the current storage requirements in QLD because I cant see anything in the legislation which might preclude it and all you can do is show your total ignorance and give a condescending response......

But at least it gives you a good ego boost huh smartarse.....

OK, here's another little challenge for you.
YOU do the math.
BTW, where in the advertisement that you posted does it state that the steel thickness is 3mm? https://www.vevor.com.au/biometric-safe ... 0505271919

Here's some data for you.
Q235 steel has a density of 7.85g/cm3 ( https://www.cnclathing.com/guide/what-i ... comparison ) = 23.55kg/m2
If it helps make it a bit easier, data from my "Black Book" shows that 3mm thick steel is 24kg/m2.

From a stated weight of 3.5kg, simple math would say that the container will have a surface area of 0.146m2
BUT, if we take the surface area (given in the advertisement picture), and without allowing for the fact that the sides could be considered as being double sided, the surface area is about 0.24m2.
IF that is the case, then the steel thickness is probably less than 2mm.

Feel free to challenge my basic math and prove that the cabinet is 3mm thickness.

[No1_49er]

Here's another condescending observation from the "smartarse".

Check out this catalogue ( https://www.ssaa.org.au/assets/publicat ... 8_web4.pdf ) and tell us which of the (specifically) Cat H safes has body and/or door thickness of less than 6mm. You might observe that the smallest/lightest one weighs in excess of 22kg.
A check of the larger Cat A, B, & H safes ALL have body thickness of 3mm and door thickness 6mm. Of those, the lightest one is 112kg; but you didn't need one that big did you? Only wanted a "rapid access" variety with the caveat that "a Handgun for home self defence is not acceptable". So why a need for "rapid" access?
Sorry; just a smartarse question.

[SomeoneElse]

Just wondering if there is any downside to these safes and how reliable the fingerprint opening option is...Anyone use them..?

..https://www.vevor.com.au/biometric-safe ... 0505271919

and yeah i do know that using a Handgun for home self defence is not acceptable...

Edit..I'm in QLD and have other multi gun safes already but was specifically after a single gun quick-access safe as well.

Yes, there are downsides. I'd guess "Different sticker, same factory".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-lE4Tz2I_Y
He even has a genre-specific play list for us... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... INJtxfKhKc
Thankfully the "bad guys" don't watch LPL videos.... I prefer to avoid all forms of electronic lock for my favourite "tools".

Someone Else

[No1_49er]

"Different sticker, same factory".
More than likely, 'cept it's not listed on Amazon any more. Maybe because of the following comments on LockPickLawyer youtube video?

"Amazon turned off reviews on this item due to this video. LOL"

"Hey LPL, just wanted to let you know that I bought this product from Amazon, and I just received an email offering a refund for this product because it "may be unlocked with certain household tools". Thank you for highlighting security flaws such as the one in this product."

But don't let anybody put you off, fnq22.

Just trying to point out the (maybe not so) obvious.
CHINA.
POS