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Cleaning solvents

Post by Zappa » 21 Dec 2018, 11:09 am

Im reading here, most ppl have a dislike for sweets 7.62 due to its harshness and odor .

What are the absolute minimum products i need for cleaning a .22LR and a .223 ?

Im thinking

1) a can of G96 gun treatment
2) One piece rod. Swivel optional?
3) Brass brush head
4) Nylon brush head
5) Jags to suit
6) Pack of wads.
7) White spirits or Shellite.
8) Cotton Flannelette rags.

With respect to solvents, whats a good all round solvent not as potent as Sweets, used for mild lead and copper fouling ???
I also watched a few youtubes about cleaning. Particularly around copper and lead removal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYINxnvaxuc

This gentleman comes across as highly knowledgeable and frankly knows his stuff. Provides a balanced argument wrt to solvents and leaving the copper plating ( caused by the projectiles) in the barrel . Akin to 'conditioning or seasoning' it makes sense to me.

The only challenge i can foresee is how clean is clean. And how much copper "fouling" should I be removing. ?

I remember my grand-pops would swear about seasoning his cast iron pans, and his favorite smoke pipe. I attempted to clean it for him once and he cut loose on me. " other than a quick pipe chute clean, i never touch the pipe pod, cause it'll take me ages to season it. " :wtf:
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by bigrich » 21 Dec 2018, 11:29 am

with regards to 22lr, shoot only lead projectiles and nylon brush and patch with no solvent after shooting, i don't have a problem with sweets myself , i just don't scrub too much . lots of different opinions on this subject. i will be following this to see if i cant learn something new :thumbsup:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 21 Dec 2018, 11:40 am

I've been using Windex, let it sit for 10 min, dry patch, Gunslick Ultra-Klenz, 10 min, dry patch until I get clean passes.

I only clean like this after 100 or more, usually boresnake every couple is all.
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Post by bladeracer » 21 Dec 2018, 1:44 pm

Zappa wrote:Im reading here, most ppl have a dislike for sweets 7.62 due to its harshness and odor .

What are the absolute minimum products i need for cleaning a .22LR and a .223 ?

Im thinking

1) a can of G96 gun treatment
2) One piece rod. Swivel optional?
3) Brass brush head
4) Nylon brush head
5) Jags to suit
6) Pack of wads.
7) White spirits or Shellite.
8) Cotton Flannelette rags.

With respect to solvents, whats a good all round solvent not as potent as Sweets, used for mild lead and copper fouling ???
I also watched a few youtubes about cleaning. Particularly around copper and lead removal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYINxnvaxuc

This gentleman comes across as highly knowledgeable and frankly knows his stuff. Provides a balanced argument wrt to solvents and leaving the copper plating ( caused by the projectiles) in the barrel . Akin to 'conditioning or seasoning' it makes sense to me.

The only challenge i can foresee is how clean is clean. And how much copper "fouling" should I be removing. ?

I remember my grand-pops would swear about seasoning his cast iron pans, and his favorite smoke pipe. I attempted to clean it for him once and he cut loose on me. " other than a quick pipe chute clean, i never touch the pipe pod, cause it'll take me ages to season it. " :wtf:


A one-piece rod, preferably coated or carbon fibre.
I've been using Outers Nitro Solvent Gun Cleaner. for cleaning (any solvent designed to break down combustion residue, copper and lead would be fine). Gun Grease for waterproofing, and some bulk gun oil I bought online for lubricant.
Jags and patching material.
What do you mean by a "pack of wads"?
I use old cotton T-shirt for wiping.

I clean all my bores only when they start showing reduced accuracy.
I rarely use brushes, but if I do need to do some scrubbing I use nylon brushes - particularly for cleaning the chamber.
I prefer to let the solvent do the scrubbing and just patch out the residue.

I thoroughly soak the bore with solvent, then patch it out until the patches come out clean.

Between bore cleans I clean the rest of the rifle. Spray with solvent to break down the crud then wipe it out (a set of dental picks are mint for getting into tight places), then oil my hand or finger and wipe the metal surfaces. I strip the bolt to get all the crud out of the firing pin and extractor. Oil it, and grease the bolt and cam lugs (and the sear surface in the receiver). Then I oil my hand and wipe oil over the entire rifle - metal, wood and plastic. I generally don't disassemble the trigger group unless it's filthy. I just wipe any crud away then a light coat of oil. The steel that's hidden under the wood I like to wipe with grease for waterproofing.

Although I do own two different bore guides, I have a varied collection of rifles, most of which won't allow a bore guide so I don't bother with them at all now. If you're going to clean the bore all the time though I would recommend using a bore guide. I do have a muzzle guide for the muzzle loader though.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Zappa » 21 Dec 2018, 4:51 pm

bladeracer wrote:What do you mean by a "pack of wads"?
I use old cotton T-shirt for wiping.


Next you're going to tell me calibre specific wads do not exist. :allegedly:
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Post by bigrich » 21 Dec 2018, 4:57 pm

as far as oil goes, i like balistol. it's good for metal , doesn't eat wood ( bin told G96 does apparently ) , spruces up leather, and can be used as a antiseptic. developed for the german military around world war one. uncle herman says, " it's gud , ja ?" :lol:

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Post by bladeracer » 21 Dec 2018, 6:05 pm

Zappa wrote:
bladeracer wrote:What do you mean by a "pack of wads"?
I use old cotton T-shirt for wiping.


Next you're going to tell me calibre specific wads do not exist. :allegedly:


Why would I?
I know what wads are generally, I just don't see what you would use them for during cleaning.
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Post by Oldbloke » 21 Dec 2018, 6:06 pm

Hunt safe, look after the bush & plug more pests. :thumbsup: Better to load on the mild side. :o The greatest invention in the history of man is beer. :drinks: "Often the written message doesn't convey all of the information"
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Post by bladeracer » 21 Dec 2018, 6:07 pm

bigrich wrote:as far as oil goes, i like balistol. it's good for metal , doesn't eat wood ( bin told G96 does apparently ) , spruces up leather, and can be used as a antiseptic. developed for the german military around world war one. uncle herman says, " it's gud , ja ?" :lol:

:drinks: :thumbsup:


I have some but it has been quite difficult to find here. Making me wonder if there isn't something equally good but more-readily available. If Ballistol was the optimum product I would've expected that they'd have sorted an Ozzie distributor before now.
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Post by bladeracer » 21 Dec 2018, 6:10 pm

Oldbloke wrote:https://www.ssaa.org.au/stories/hints-tips-how-to-clean-a-firearm.html


From the link, "I base my cleaning routines on the way I clean my benchrest target rifles...".
I don't shoot Benchrest and I doubt very many shooters need to go to that level of OCD in their cleaning technique.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by bigrich » 21 Dec 2018, 6:43 pm

bladeracer wrote:
bigrich wrote:as far as oil goes, i like balistol. it's good for metal , doesn't eat wood ( bin told G96 does apparently ) , spruces up leather, and can be used as a antiseptic. developed for the german military around world war one. uncle herman says, " it's gud , ja ?" :lol:

:drinks: :thumbsup:


I have some but it has been quite difficult to find here. Making me wonder if there isn't something equally good but more-readily available. If Ballistol was the optimum product I would've expected that they'd have sorted an Ozzie distributor before now.


business connections and politics dictate what we do or don't get from overseas ;)
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Post by Zappa » 21 Dec 2018, 7:21 pm

I refer to the patches as wads. I know I'm not using the correct terminology. Regardless I think they're ok to use and cheap enough if you dont have cotton rags lying round . Ymmv
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Post by bladeracer » 21 Dec 2018, 8:28 pm

bigrich wrote:business connections and politics dictate what we do or don't get from overseas ;)


Agreed, but if it were that good somebody would've sorted a supply by now.
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Post by bladeracer » 21 Dec 2018, 8:31 pm

Zappa wrote:I refer to the patches as wads. I know I'm not using the correct terminology. Regardless I think they're ok to use and cheap enough if you dont have cotton rags lying round . Ymmv


Okay, it should've clicked when I noticed you didn't list patching material :-)
I use pre-cut patches and rolled "two-by-four" patch material depending on the size of the hole I'm cleaning.
I also wrap the nylon brush with a patch so it drags the crud out with it.

It's not inconceivable that somebody might use wads for cleaning, but it'd be pretty unusual.
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Post by marksman » 21 Dec 2018, 8:32 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:https://www.ssaa.org.au/stories/hints-tips-how-to-clean-a-firearm.html


From the link, "I base my cleaning routines on the way I clean my benchrest target rifles...".
I don't shoot Benchrest and I doubt very many shooters need to go to that level of OCD in their cleaning technique.


blade I dont see a difference in cleaning a bore :unknown:
do you think you get a different clean if its not a benchrest rifle :unknown:

you put cleaning solvent in, give it time to work and patch it out, when the bore is clean oil and put it away :unknown:
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Post by JimTom » 21 Dec 2018, 9:07 pm

Hoppes #9 for me mate. Then either penetrene, CLP, or G96.
I don’t use any solvent in 22LR. Shouldn’t be a need to.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by bigrich » 21 Dec 2018, 9:12 pm

after numerous testing on 22 lr, lead slugs only and don't clean out with solvent . works for me :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Post by No1_49er » 21 Dec 2018, 10:28 pm

bladeracer wrote:
bigrich wrote:as far as oil goes, i like balistol. it's good for metal , doesn't eat wood ( bin told G96 does apparently ) , spruces up leather, and can be used as a antiseptic. developed for the german military around world war one. uncle herman says, " it's gud , ja ?" :lol:

:drinks: :thumbsup:


I have some but it has been quite difficult to find here. Making me wonder if there isn't something equally good but more-readily available. If Ballistol was the optimum product I would've expected that they'd have sorted an Ozzie distributor before now.

Iv'e never had any problem obtaining Ballistol produts from BRT in Brisbane.
https://brtshooterssupply.com.au/produc ... 500ml.html

Ballistol also make an excellent bore cleaning solvent, available from, BRT of course.
https://brtshooterssupply.com.au/produc ... il-65.html

Does that help?
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