Cleaning solvents

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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Zappa » 21 Dec 2018, 11:37 pm

JimTom wrote:Hoppes #9 for me mate. Then either penetrene, CLP, or G96.
I don’t use any solvent in 22LR. Shouldn’t be a need to.


spray or liquid? Id imagine the liquid lasts longer whereas the spray is easier to apply. :geek:
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by bigrich » 22 Dec 2018, 4:52 am

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bladeracer wrote:
bigrich wrote:as far as oil goes, i like balistol. it's good for metal , doesn't eat wood ( bin told G96 does apparently ) , spruces up leather, and can be used as a antiseptic. developed for the german military around world war one. uncle herman says, " it's gud , ja ?" :lol:

:drinks: :thumbsup:


I have some but it has been quite difficult to find here. Making me wonder if there isn't something equally good but more-readily available. If Ballistol was the optimum product I would've expected that they'd have sorted an Ozzie distributor before now.

Iv'e never had any problem obtaining Ballistol produts from BRT in Brisbane.
https://brtshooterssupply.com.au/produc ... 500ml.html

Ballistol also make an excellent bore cleaning solvent, available from, BRT of course.
https://brtshooterssupply.com.au/produc ... il-65.html

Does that help?


i've never had a problem getting balistol from the GS i go to around brisbane. rebel gun works do a lot of online sales. ballistol is not petroleum based, which is why it doesn't eat wood and is good for a lot of other uses . hope this helps :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by JimTom » 22 Dec 2018, 6:03 am

Zappa wrote:
JimTom wrote:Hoppes #9 for me mate. Then either penetrene, CLP, or G96.
I don’t use any solvent in 22LR. Shouldn’t be a need to.


spray or liquid? Id imagine the liquid lasts longer whereas the spray is easier to apply. :geek:



G96 in a can, Penetrene, and CLP out of a bottle mate.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Zappa » 22 Dec 2018, 11:30 am

https://www.bunnings.com.au/bondall-400 ... l_p6100450

apparently uncle bunnies can get it in for you. I think im sold.

I trust Zerman stuff. Them crazy Zermans...
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by bladeracer » 22 Dec 2018, 1:00 pm

bigrich wrote:after numerous testing on 22 lr, lead slugs only and don't clean out with solvent . works for me :drinks: :thumbsup:


I keep seeing this reference to only shooting lead bullets in the .22LR - what other materials are .22LR bullets made from?
The only one that comes to mind is the CCI Copper-22 polymer bullet, everything else I've ever seen is lead.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Gaznazdiak » 22 Dec 2018, 1:35 pm

Lead as opposed to copper coated lead such as Power Points, perhaps.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by bladeracer » 22 Dec 2018, 2:58 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:Lead as opposed to copper coated lead such as Power Points, perhaps.


I've seen copper-wash bullets, but that's a far stretch from copper-plating or jacketed, it's basically copper-coloured lube.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by pomemax » 22 Dec 2018, 3:37 pm

Check EDS red on yt
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by marksman » 22 Dec 2018, 4:14 pm

myself I do not have a problem with using sweets 7.62, we have had discussions on this forum about it's use
I use wipe out patch out and accelerator for rimfire and centrefire rifle
these are photo's of patches from what I thought was a very clean bore after using wipeout patchout in a cenrefire but it is by far the best thing I have ever used for carbon removal, it is good for taking out copper but I use bore tech eliminator for copper if there is any after I use the patchout :drinks: it works
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Zappa » 22 Dec 2018, 4:14 pm

pomemax wrote:Check EDS red on yt


interesting concoction. i use the acetone \ atf formula for penetrating oil around the garage but Mr Ed takes it a few steps further.

With my economy of scale, im better off buying the lube in a can rather than stockpiling all these chems. If I shot 1500 rnds per week, I can see that might be feasible.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Zappa » 22 Dec 2018, 4:50 pm

how do you guys dispose of your patches ? They cant really be recycled without undergoing further chemical treatment.
Simply chucking them in the bin in general waste would not be the smartest thing to do either.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by bladeracer » 22 Dec 2018, 6:23 pm

Zappa wrote:how do you guys dispose of your patches ? They cant really be recycled without undergoing further chemical treatment.
Simply chucking them in the bin in general waste would not be the smartest thing to do either.


In the bin. The solvents evaporate by the time it gets to the bin so it's just a bit of dirty rag.
How many litres of gun oil do you go through? When I clean a rifle I use plenty of solvent and oil, but neither would equate to more than a few drops. When I'm building an engine my clothing would have more oil on it than my bore patches would.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Zappa » 22 Dec 2018, 6:57 pm

I collect my oil, coolant and take it to the SCA bins or to the refuse centre for recycling. I'll do the same for the patches. Regardless of quantity and the amount of residual lead, copper and carbon, It's just the right thing to do.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by bladeracer » 22 Dec 2018, 7:36 pm

Zappa wrote:I collect my oil, coolant and take it to the SCA bins or to the refuse centre for recycling. I'll do the same for the patches. Regardless of quantity and the amount of residual lead, copper and carbon, It's just the right thing to do.


I save my oil and coolant and such and drop it in at the local tip where they collect it for recycling. I don't think anywhere collects oily rags for recycling.

We are currently clearing out a couple decades of old oils that Rose's dad has been saving. The tip won't take large amounts so we drop off eight litres every week, even though they know we're doing it that's the only way they let us :-) Still a few hundred litres to get through.

I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't as much residual lead in the empty ammo boxes as there would be on your patches. Consider that a 40gn lead bullet can be recovered at the target still weighing 40gn. Deduct any lead that is destroyed during it's flight, it's not likely there's much being left in the bore. When you clean a .22LR bore you are cleaning out lube, not lead. If you are getting leading in a .22LR there is a problem somewhere. Likewise for jacketed bullets, you'd probably have no more than a couple grains of copper left in the bore after several hundred rounds, in a really bad barrel. As for powder residue, the vast majority is spat out the muzzle behind the bullet...into the environment.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Oldbloke » 22 Dec 2018, 8:09 pm

Zappa wrote: I'll do the same for the patches. Regardless of quantity and the amount of residual lead, copper and carbon, It's just the right thing to do.


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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by SCJ429 » 28 Dec 2018, 4:01 pm

You should use a bore guide to protect you barrel, even when using a plastic coated rod. Remove all the copper fouling, no such thing as a barrel shooting better with some copper seasoning. I use boretec cu but Sweets or Ballistol copper remover work well to.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by SCJ429 » 28 Dec 2018, 4:07 pm

I also like to cut my own patches from scrap material. I can adjust the size of the patch to suit the bore size. I see guys bashing overly tight patches down their barrel when using pre cut patches. If I find my first patch too loose I cut the next one a bit bigger until I get it right.
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Re: Cleaning solvents

Post by Zappa » 28 Dec 2018, 4:25 pm

SCJ429 wrote:I also like to cut my own patches from scrap material. I can adjust the size of the patch to suit the bore size.


Hmmm. Wouldn't that be a function of patch thickness rather than size ? Bunching up the bigger patch on the jag head to adjust for bore size seems counterproductive. What am I missing?
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