New ammunition safe

[petemacsydney]

I'm thinking about getting an ammo safe...

Picking up an SG soon, so I'm sure I'll need more space!

I presume in NSW it has to be bolted to the floor/wall?

I looked up the info on NSW firearms reg and it doesn't say anything about it needing to be affixed if its just for ammo?

[ebr love]

Not requirements to bolt it down if it's only for ammo.

What are the storage requirements in relation to ammunition?

Ammunition must be stored in a locked container, separate from the firearms -sections 40 (1)(d) & 41(1)(c) of the Act. The ammunition storage may be
separate altogether, or may be a separate locked compartment or receptacle within the firearms safe storage receptacle or safe.

...

The Commissioner of Police has determined the following as the minimum standard applicable to the ammunition storage container and locking mechanisms for a licence or permit holder:

The ammunition container must be made of plastic, wood, metal or steel which is sturdy and not easily penetrated (ie cash box/ammunition box) and be fitted with a lock which is either:
1. An internal locking mechanism (ie cash box or similar) which is operated by means of a key, combination lock or other similar locking mechanism (ie pin number), OR
2. Locked by the use of a hasp and staple (or similar) and fitted with a padlock.

NOTE: The key to the lock/padlock must not be kept within the firearms receptacle, or within the immediate vicinity.

A lockable solid plastic or wood box would be enough.

For more - NSW Ammunition Safe Storage, Purchase & Possession fact sheet

[paps]

Looks like a plain old tuck-shop cash box is enough according to that.

You got enough ammo to justify spending $$$ on a safe when a cheap box will do?

Cash-box is pretty boggo effort TBH though, must be something cheap and half decent from Bunnings if its just for ammo?

Cheaper than a new safe anyway...

[Fozzy]

Something like this would work

http://www.gunemporium.com.au/Spika-S3A-Ammo-Safe.html

[Guliver]

Bunnings sell lock boxes you can bolt to the wall, adequate for ammunition. Not compulsory here in Victoria, but safety for the Grankids is paramount.

http://www.bunnings.com.au/sandleford-1 ... e_p4220312 is what I use for .22 Easily fits 2000 in 50 boxes.

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[tom604]

old fridge? screw a lock on it and your good to go

[pajamatime]

Ultimately not everyone's perception is the same in terms of "safety" I would say get what you think makes you and or your family feel safer?

I for one have a safe dedicated to ammunition, a lockup dedicated to tools and dangerous tools and a safe dedicated to items of value (documents etc), and my firearms safe is a class 1 & 2 Category A,B,C,D,H Gun safe. All safes are alarmed.

See people might think that's overboard but I'm a realist, and realistically the more security one haves the less risk. Insurance does not save lives or reduce crime it just protects your wallet

So that's how I prioritize and invest on behalf of my firearms. The value of human life being the deciding factor, which logically speaking should be the deciding factor regardless?

[ebr love]

No one is suggesting he slack off on the security or safety.

Pete's question was about the legalities of storing ammunition in NSW, my comment stating "a lockable solid plastic or wood box would be enough" answers the question.

What he "should" do for other safety reasons is another question. Other circumstances e.g. family, kids, what's being stored, other security measures etc. will dictate this, I don't know anything about Pete's situation there so don't presume to tell him what he should be doing.

I'm sure he can figure this out himself.

[Herdsman]

I for one have a safe dedicated to ammunition, a lockup dedicated to tools and dangerous tools and a safe dedicated to items of value (documents etc), and my firearms safe is a class 1 & 2 Category A,B,C,D,H Gun safe.

Are you storing anything other than A/B which requires that?

Just curious.

[petemacsydney]

Ultimately not everyone's perception is the same in terms of "safety" I would say get what you think makes you and or your family feel safer?

I for one have a safe dedicated to ammunition, a lockup dedicated to tools and dangerous tools and a safe dedicated to items of value (documents etc), and my firearms safe is a class 1 & 2 Category A,B,C,D,H Gun safe. All safes are alarmed.

See people might think that's overboard but I'm a realist, and realistically the more security one haves the less risk. Insurance does not save lives or reduce crime it just protects your wallet

So that's how I prioritize and invest on behalf of my firearms. The value of human life being the deciding factor, which logically speaking should be the deciding factor regardless?

yup, my question was more of a policy question not a question of what i can get away with legally or what cheap solution i can purchase personally.

Being a noob, i was quite surprised that you could have ammo stored in a house with as little as a locked plastic box. now i'm not judging those who that may suit of course!, but with kids running around my house, i need something a little more serious

actually, i intend to do similar to you. get a firearm safe, bolt it as much as i can, and use it for ammo only... piece of mind

[petemacsydney]

No one is suggesting he slack off on the security or safety.

Pete's question was about the legalities of storing ammunition in NSW, my comment stating "a lockable solid plastic or wood box would be enough" answers the question.

What he "should" do for other safety reasons is another question. Other circumstances e.g. family, kids, what's being stored, other security measures etc. will dictate this, I don't know anything about Pete's situation there so don't presume to tell him what he should be doing.

I'm sure he can figure this out himself.

correctamundo! thx mate

[petemacsydney]

old fridge? screw a lock on it and your good to go

nah, that would just confuse me... where would i find the beer?? lol

[Fozzy]

I bought this today.. Thought it had a shelf in it.. But it doesnt which is slightly annoying but its an easy fix... Made by Buffalo River 160 bucks from a LGS its 520x360x360



Some boxes of ammo to give you an idea of size

[petemacsydney]

hhhhmmmm nice ammo box

[Fozzy]

All mounted up and sorted MUCH BETTER

[petemacsydney]

hhmmmm too much empty space!!!

[Fozzy]

Thats what I was thinking.. There is a s**t load of ammo in there aswell haha

[petemacsydney]

off to the gun shop for u my friend... fill that baby up!!!!

[Fozzy]

Also found these little buggers.. http://www.ramset.com.au/Product/Detail ... In-Anchors

So good for masonry fixing.. Drill hole get cordless rattle gun.. Job done.

[Lorgar]

Being a noob, i was quite surprised that you could have ammo stored in a house with as little as a locked plastic box. now i'm not judging those who that may suit of course!, but with kids running around my house, i need something a little more serious

It's horses for courses as always.

I have an internal ammo compartment in my safe so my ammo is routinely stored in there. I also have a ammo box similar to the Buffalo Creek one Fozzy posted though, and after a trip out there might be some ammo stored in there for a little while before I get around to moving it back to the safe.

No kids at my place, me and my partner are both licensed so there is no issue around that. The key is stored away separately, blah blah blah.

The portable ammo box isn't Fort Knox, but nothing's going to go wrong if I take my eyes off it for an hour.

[pajamatime]

Are you storing anything other than A/B which requires that?

Just curious.

Nope, maybe handguns in the future.

Why have I gone far beyond the required minimum for ammunition and or A/B firearms you ask? my biggest reason is child safety/family safety, 2nd reason is security against the criminal element, 3rd reason is "there is no law saying I can't". Also essentially it also reflects on my personality in general, I am showing that I do not need a law to instruct me to be prudent with firearms.

Luck favours the prepared
Like I said before in a previous post, do what makes you feel most safe given your situation...as long as it don't break the law lol? some people have kids some don't etc, some family members might feel nervous around firearms with more relaxed security etc. who knows? cause I don't know everyone's situation but logically speaking safer is better is it not? going beyond the maximum requirements for the category/s I'm licensed for is in my mind safer for said licensed category *shrugs*

[Herdsman]

It's all good, friend.

Not asking you to justify yourself

Just curious like it said