New safe installation question

[jennageit]

Hi Guys,

My gun safe arrived yesterday, and I've been struggling to figure out the best place to put it. I was going to put it in the office, but that's no-longer an option, so it's going into my bedroom.

The problem is:

I cant have it flush with the wall because of the skirting board. The skirting board is about 6 inches tall, causes the safe to be almost an inch off the wall for almost the entire height.

From what I can see, there are 2 options:

Cut a section out of the skirting board (and hope the owner doesn't notice), or
Put a board behind the safe, as a spacer, to fill the gap and bolt through the board and into the stud on the wall. My concern is, if I do this, is it still classed as being secured properly?

The safe weights about 45kgs, and is only a 3 gun, which is big enough for me.

So guys, what do you suggest?

Cut a chunk out of the skirting board, or put spacers in?

Jenna

[Shotfox]

To mount it flush with the wall you will have to carefully remove the length of skirting board but keep it and replace it if you move and fill the edge with no more gaps and you're done.Im sure hubby can do this for ya.

[jennageit]

That's what I was thinking.
I worry about using spacers, only because it might give someone purchase to try and get it off the wall. The house will most likely fall down before that happens lol

Jenna

PS. Bugger hubby doing it, I want to play with the power tools! I'm pretty handy with things like a jigsaw and drill lol

[Die Judicii]

So what does the house owner say about the holes your gonna drill into the wall and or floor ?????????????

[jennageit]

I have no idea, and I don't really care.

She's left us without a stove for over 12 months, no heating (other than column heaters), busted pipes and dodgy electrical work.

Oh, and there isn't a wall or door in this house that isn't split, full of holes, or totally destroyed. And, none of it is our doing. It was like that when we moved in and accepted her kids when DHS took them off her.
The owner is my husbands ex wife, and she hates me with a passion. I've told her I'm installing a safe, she's replied with "Don't wreck the joint". End of story.

Hubby has decided to cut a chunk out of the skirting board so that the safe sits flush with the wall, and we'll replace it when we move.

Jenna

[whert]

I worry about using spacers, only because it might give someone purchase to try and get it off the wall.

The wall is just timber/plaster or whatever I guess?

You can get behind that regardless of another spacer board.

Getting it through the stud is what the fuzz are going to want to see, however you can get it flush on top of that should be good.

[Die Judicii]

I have no idea, and I don't really care.

She's left us without a stove for over 12 months, no heating (other than column heaters), busted pipes and dodgy electrical work.

Oh, and there isn't a wall or door in this house that isn't split, full of holes, or totally destroyed. And, none of it is our doing. It was like that when we moved in and accepted her kids when DHS took them off her.
The owner is my husbands ex wife, and she hates me with a passion. I've told her I'm installing a safe, she's replied with "Don't wreck the joint". End of story.

Hubby has decided to cut a chunk out of the skirting board so that the safe sits flush with the wall, and we'll replace it when we move.

Jenna

So, do tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, What was the real "reason" you put in the application for a F/As license ??????

Hee Hee,,,,,,, just kidding.

It all sounds a bit too weird and cumfy for my liking.

[FuzzyM]

I previously rented a unit that had a lot of minor damage prior to us living there. They were so slow to fix the dangerous broken power point, rooted leaking plumbing and some other stuff. Yet when we moved out the real estate agent went over the joint with a fine toothed comb, bitching about dust in the wardrobe drawer, scuff marks behind a door and about 10 other minor details that all had to be rectified before we could have our bond back

Bought our first house this year and man do I love being able to drill holes and just replace stuff as I see fit!

[jennageit]

It's a wonderful feeling being able to do things like that.

We aren't through an agent, it's a private arrangement. Also, we have dated photo's of what the property was like in the four weeks before we moved in, when we had to clean the rooms out of dirty nappies, rubbish, rodents, cat s**t and piss, and the occasional tiger snake.

She wouldn't dare have a go at us, cos we'll haul her over the coals. We're doing each other a favour right now, but when we get into a position when we can buy our own place, I'm going to move out, give her 28 days notice, and then watch the fireworks from a safe distance lol

Jenna

[agentzero]

Here's the official line from the Vic Pol website Jenna.

SCHEDULE 4
STORAGE REQUIREMENTS
1 Longarm licences for category A and B longarms
(1) The firearm must be stored in a receptacle—
(a) which is constructed of hard wood or steel that is not easily penetrable; and
(b) which, if it weighs less than 150 kilograms when it is empty, must be fixed to the frame of the floor or the wall of the premises where the firearm is kept in such a manner that it is not easily removable; and
(c) which, when any firearm is stored in it, is locked with a lock of sturdy construction.

With a space it's still won't be 'easily removable' when it's through the studs

[Patrol66]

I used a spacer. Screws through spacer into wall stud and four dyna bolts into concrete floor.

I will eventually build a bookcase both sides and above the safe, then it would take someone very determined to remove my safe.

Will say that lining up the spacer was a huge pain in the butt.

[halberg]

We're doing each other a favour right now, but when we get into a position when we can buy our own place, I'm going to move out, give her 28 days notice, and then watch the fireworks from a safe distance lol

Sounds like a plan.

Also sounds like you're getting the short of this deal a bit?

[jennageit]

We definitely are, but at least we've got a roof over our heads. It's been a rather huge sacrifice staying here, but the kids are happy, they haven't had to move schools, and for the time being, I can cope with the situation, even if I do get a bit ratty from time to time.

It wont last forever though, thank god!

[whert]

At least getting your shooters license will be a pick-me-up

[jennageit]

Definitely.

And each week when I go to the range, I have a good time (no matter what the score card result is), and I don't have to think about anything but shooting, and chatting to the guys.

I now love Wednesday's

And I'm counting down the days till when my license should be here!
Jenna

[lole]

And each week when I go to the range, I have a good time (no matter what the score card result is), and I don't have to think about anything but shooting, and chatting to the guys.

Fun's more important than score.

There's always one guy at the range who's pissed over his shooting and leaves in a huff.

Dunno why they go when that's what they get out of it.

[Westy]

So what does the house owner say about the holes your gonna drill into the wall and or floor ?????????????

How about the garage or are there to many cars in there???LOL. I own a few properties and man I get steamed when tenants leave holes in my walls for me to fix and then claim it wasn't there fault!!!LOL

[jennageit]

I thought about the garage Westy, but the house is a much better option.

Although the owner is unlikely to notice, we'll put everything back as it was when we are done. I'm not going to fix the fist holes in the plaster or the broken doors though, they were like that when we moved in. When we do move, this house will be spotless, we'll even steam clean the carpet before we go.

As for that one guy who goes away grumpy for the club, he didn't show up last night, so we all had a good time!

[Manimal]

I thought about the garage Westy, but the house is a much better option.

Usually better for your guns too, as well as security.

Less exposed to the elements in the house.

[FuzzyM]

Sounds like Jenna's house isn't very weatherproof!

[Manimal]

Imagine what condition the shed must be in then

[jennageit]

Sounds like Jenna's house isn't very weatherproof!

It's bloody freezing in this house fuzzy. It may be rain/hail proof, but it's not wind proof. The cracks in the front and back doors, and the gaps around each door make it a wind tunnel in the lounge room.

The holes in the floor that the owners second oldest put in the floor down the south end of the house don't help that either. We've blocked them up as much as possible, and we keep filling the cracks in the front and back doors but it's impossible.

Still, it's a roof over our heads, and hopefully only temporary.

For those suggesting the garage, it's right on the road so I wouldn't feel comfortable with my safe being in there, but it has been known to be considerably warmer in there, even with the roller doors open! lmao


We've decided to go with removing a chunk of skirting board, and hubby is going to bolt the safe to the floor and the wall. When we move, we'll fill the goles in the wall and floor and replace the skirting board.
It sounds like a lot of stuffing around, but it'll be easier in the end.

Jenna

[BobWilliams61]

Now I am worried.
I have only just got my license and I am waiting for the paperwork to come through and you guys have got me thinking that my chosen location for my gun safe might be questioned by VICPOL.
I planned to install it the enclosed bay of our 3 bay machinery shed which we use as a tack room so we are in and out of it every day it’s 20 metres from my main house, no widows small door which is locked and padlocked.
I intended to bolt the safe to the concrete floor and weld it to one of the steel upright beams.
Reading the some of the comments I get the impression that VICPOL might question my choice of location, preferring that I locate it in the house.