Safe size

[ebr love]

Fingers crossed for you then.

[mausermate]

This useless and untrue piece of information graced the pages our forum a few days ago.

The 15+ requiring BTB alarm is already a requirement here in NSW and in VIC too I know. Other states too maybe?

What a load of crap.
There is no such law in NSW that owners of more than 15 firearms must have back to base security. Total made up drivel.

Next time you want to say something on a public forum "get your facts right".
Suggestion to EBR LOVE, delete your post then go to settings and delete yourself.

[tom604]

wow ,thank goodness you don't over react you could of suggested ebr stay ? so your not or buddies

[Guliver]

Why wasn't this posted in the thread that offends you?

Surely you could discuss your thoughts in the original thread.

[Aster]

Above 3 replies merged from other topic.

[ebr love]

This useless and untrue piece of information graced the pages our forum a few days ago.

The 15+ requiring BTB alarm is already a requirement here in NSW and in VIC too I know. Other states too maybe?

What a load of crap.
There is no such law in NSW that owners of more than 15 firearms must have back to base security. Total made up drivel.

Next time you want to say something on a public forum "get your facts right".
Suggestion to EBR LOVE, delete your post then go to settings and delete yourself.

Nothing worse? How about a pointless temper tantrum?

Victoria Firearms Act schedule 4 item 1(2)

If more than 15 firearms are stored on the premises where the firearm is stored, the premises must be fitted with an intruder alarm system—

NSW firearms regulations section 75 item 5(c)

(5) If the security firm is authorised to possess more than 15 firearms, the following requirements apply:

(c) the premises on which the firearms are stored must:
(i) have an intruder alarm and duress facilities that are monitored off-site and are of an approved type, and
(ii) be of an approved type, and
(iii) be equipped with 24-hour video surveillance of an approved type, and

So I made a mistake and in NSW the 15 guns/alarm information applies security firms, not private residence. My information about Victoria was correct.

My point was, it is legislation in a state other, which sets a precedent for it becoming legislation in Tasmania. Nothing in my error or your pointless tantrum changes the validity of that.

Next time you want to say something on a public forum how about you try and say something helpful instead of being a d**khead?

I think I'll stay. If you get this frustrated over a little conversation maybe you should go.

[sbd3927]

I found the 3mm more stood out more than the alarm position. {without checking state requirements etc...} Isn't 2mm body std across the board. If any State were to require an upgrade to 3mm there needs to be a lot of jumping up and down and requiring proof of instances where the 1mm difference would have prevented a theft. Any pen pusher deciding an upgrade is required needs to cough up some evidence or funds to support it.

I think my gun safe is 2mm body, 4mm door, although I have a 3/6 which was Cat C/D I think, that's used for tools in the shed rather than guns in the house. Seven years and counting, still waiting for that first inspection, probably couldn't get past the always closed gate and dog for a surprise inspection.

[anthillinside]

Legislation is all in the numbers and varies from state to state.
Victoria (the only one I'm interested in in this case)
You have to read it all and then go look up all the references and then look up the referenced references ad infinitum
Sch.4
For AB
(2) If more than 15 firearms are stored on the
premises where the firearm is stored, the premises
must be fitted with an intruder alarm system—
(a) the installation, maintenance and operation
of which complies with Australian Standard
2201.1:2007 (as amended from time to time);
and
(b) which, in the event of an intrusion, activates
an audible alarm warning device and an
external visible alarm warning light.
Additional for CD
(2A) The key to the container in which the firearm is
stored must—
(a) be carried by the holder of the licence; or
(b) be kept securely in a separate room from the
container—
when the container is not being accessed.

ASA 2201.1 deals with the client premises.
There is no mention of monitoring (back to base)
Monitoring is covered in ASA 2201.2

SAI Global guy at work said if it says xxx.1 then thats where you have to comply to and no further.

[pajamatime]

this may help...can't find this in Australia though so probably have to fork out a bit more to get them from America?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gun-Storage-Sol ... 1274080005

[inventurkey]

Kinda clever with the velcro rods.

No luck if you on the side of 'muzzle down' storage argument though.