Concerned about Storage safe

[Tomek]

Slight mistake. Only one of these 4.5 inch noggins behind the top holes.

House was built around 1994. The wall is the back of the wardrobe in my room and behind it is the wardrobe of another room. The walls don't have any power points on them or perpendicular to them. It seems like the same width of wooden beam that I see on the roof under the tiles.

I found the same type of nogging between two other rooms in a normal wall. That one seems to be 5.5 inches wide. Both are at 120cm above the ground.

It's freaky that the middle of this beam lines up exactly with the top back holes of the safe.

[Gwion]

Oh well... Let's go get too concerned about it all.... Whack a screw in there!

[bladeracer]

Slight mistake. Only one of these 4.5 inch noggins behind the top holes.

House was built around 1994. The wall is the back of the wardrobe in my room and behind it is the wardrobe of another room. The walls don't have any power points on them or perpendicular to them. It seems like the same width of wooden beam that I see on the roof under the tiles.

I found the same type of nogging between two other rooms in a normal wall. That one seems to be 5.5 inches wide. Both are at 120cm above the ground.

It's freaky that the middle of this beam lines up exactly with the top back holes of the safe.

It might be that they've run nogs "on the flat" along the join of the wall sheeting then.

[bigfellascott]

I always bolt them to the floor and walls and generally use more than the min required in size bolt and No. of bolts used, I put them in the corner always that way I have 3 sides to anchor it too, also make levering it a hell of a lot harder to do.

[Gwion]

Slight mistake. Only one of these 4.5 inch noggins behind the top holes.

House was built around 1994. The wall is the back of the wardrobe in my room and behind it is the wardrobe of another room. The walls don't have any power points on them or perpendicular to them. It seems like the same width of wooden beam that I see on the roof under the tiles.

I found the same type of nogging between two other rooms in a normal wall. That one seems to be 5.5 inches wide. Both are at 120cm above the ground.

It's freaky that the middle of this beam lines up exactly with the top back holes of the safe.

It might be that they've run nogs "on the flat" along the join of the wall sheeting then.

Tippin' you've got it there!

[bladeracer]

I always bolt them to the floor and walls and generally use more than the min required in size bolt and No. of bolts used, I put them in the corner always that way I have 3 sides to anchor it too, also make levering it a hell of a lot harder to do.

I used to have my pistol safe in a corner like that and always found access awkward. With the rifle safes I prefer to leave a gap from a side wall and bolt into the back and the floor, then I can stash my hard cases in the gap alongside the safe.
I have a steel ammo cabinet on the wall next to the safe, and another above my loading bench for primers, powders and primed brass.

In WA the requirements for ammunition storage is the same as for firearms, you need another safe for your ammo. And another for powder if you reload as you can't store powder with ammunition, primers or firearms.

http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/Hansard ... -4863a.pdf

As has been stated above, we can only take reasonable precautions, if somebody really wants our firearms (or anything else we own) they will get them.

[Gamerancher]

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[Tomek]

What's on the other side of the wall? Not unusual for a builder to put a 4"x 2" horizontally if there is a need to mount something, i.e taps? With one high and one low makes me wonder if there isn't some plumbing on the other side.

Actually, there is just one high one at 120cm. The other side of this closet wall is the other rooms closet. There's no taps, powerpoints or switches on the wall or perpendicular to it.

[Gamerancher]

Couple of 10 mm coach screws then.

[chacka]

It's freaky that the middle of this beam lines up exactly with the top back holes of the safe.

Destiny

[WayneO]

4 lengths of 18mm threaded bar through the wall and bolted to a 3.5mm steel plate in the other room. Cupboard locked, sensor with 2 separate sirens inside the cupboard connected to a UPS and the mancave door is locked.
If they want them they will find a way to get them, but I will make it as hard as I can for them to get them.
Oh yes, and there is a camera in the room as well.

[Tomek]

In the end, there was no nogging. s**ty stud finder.
So i have 4 bolts in the concrete ( apparently 700kg each). And with a piece of wood between the safe and the wall, there's now two toggle bolts which have maximum loads of around 60kg each. This feels sturdy now without wobbling.