Stix wrote:Archie,
I have some ideas, but why cant you bolt it to the floor...?
Also im not in NSW so would be helpful if you could post the requirements they state.
Archie wrote:Can anyone who is better than tools with me (which really means, anyone) tell me if / how I can legally (NSW) fit a safe using this as the anchor point? Previously I've only attached one into wood but that's not an option here, nor is bolting it to the floor, and I have nfi what I'm doing with this stuff. The photo is the inside of the drywall showing the metal framework; obviously there will be plasterboard over it when it's finished. I need to bolt it onto the framework but the bolt can't go through the other side of it either because then it'll poke out the wall on the other side.
Stix wrote:Archie,
Just a thought--is the dwelling currently under construction...?
If so, ask one of the tradesman to knock in a couple of noggings for you...any self respecting tradesman working on the job should do it for you for nothing...it would only take them a few minutes...!
GLS_1956 wrote:Stix wrote:Archie,
Just a thought--is the dwelling currently under construction...?
If so, ask one of the tradesman to knock in a couple of noggings for you...any self respecting tradesman working on the job should do it for you for nothing...it would only take them a few minutes...!
I'm not sure what a "noggin" is, glory of being an American in America reading what an Aussie in Australia is writing. But I wonder if you cant get a cross piece installed between two or more vertical studs and be able to bolt to those.
sungazer wrote:Also a noggin may be your head or brain. The saying is "use your noggin"
Stix wrote:GLS_1956 wrote:Stix wrote:Archie,
Just a thought--is the dwelling currently under construction...?
If so, ask one of the tradesman to knock in a couple of noggings for you...any self respecting tradesman working on the job should do it for you for nothing...it would only take them a few minutes...!
I'm not sure what a "noggin" is, glory of being an American in America reading what an Aussie in Australia is writing. But I wonder if you cant get a cross piece installed between two or more vertical studs and be able to bolt to those.
That cross piece you suggest installed between vertical members (called studs) is a nogging...!
Nice to know you Americans in America are in the same page...its just that you talk funny...
GLS_1956 wrote:Stix wrote:Archie,
Just a thought--is the dwelling currently under construction...?
If so, ask one of the tradesman to knock in a couple of noggings for you...any self respecting tradesman working on the job should do it for you for nothing...it would only take them a few minutes...!
I'm not sure what a "noggin" is, glory of being an American in America reading what an Aussie in Australia is writing. But I wonder if you cant get a cross piece installed between two or more vertical studs and be able to bolt to those.
Gwion wrote:GLS_1956 wrote:Stix wrote:Archie,
Just a thought--is the dwelling currently under construction...?
If so, ask one of the tradesman to knock in a couple of noggings for you...any self respecting tradesman working on the job should do it for you for nothing...it would only take them a few minutes...!
I'm not sure what a "noggin" is, glory of being an American in America reading what an Aussie in Australia is writing. But I wonder if you cant get a cross piece installed between two or more vertical studs and be able to bolt to those.
I agree with those suggesting you choose your mounting stud and glue a suitably sized piece of timber in it while the studs are still exposed. I can't see those steel studs being very cooperative with coach screws.
Stix wrote:
Screwing into the timber nogs avoids having to screw into the studs.
Gwion wrote:Stix wrote:
Screwing into the timber nogs avoids having to screw into the studs.
True but you can then only put one or two screws into one nog as standard spacing generally leaves only one nog in the height of a standard gun safe. I'd feel better with screws centered on a stud with 4 up the length of the safe. Some states stipulate the number & min standard of fixings required, not sure of what that is in the OP case.
Gwion wrote:Stix wrote:
Screwing into the timber nogs avoids having to screw into the studs.
True but you can then only put one or two screws into one nog as standard spacing generally leaves only one nog in the height of a standard gun safe. I'd feel better with screws centered on a stud with 4 up the length of the safe. Some states stipulate the number & min standard of fixings required, not sure of what that is in the OP case.
Oldbloke wrote:Sheesh, what a long and technical discussion about screwing a safe to the wall.
Put 2, maybe 3 additional noggins in the wall and screw the f***ing thing to the noggins using 4 or 6 screws. Cops will not dismantle the wall to check everything. Just give it a heave ho test. Just use very big screws and sheal be right mate. (unless the regs stipulate a screw size in your state) (I would use about 8 mm coach bolts)
sungazer wrote:Ive seen the 10mm coach bolts mentioned somewhere. It may be the only state to stipulate a actual method. ... ... ...
Hence I would go with at least two in the wall and two in the floor.
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The main point of safes was to provided safe storage in the home from children. Also to slow down a hot head from grabbing the gun from under the bed. We are being indoctrinated to accept stricter rules and regulations for reasons that were never intended.
Oldbloke wrote:Yeah, what happened to Archie?
Stix wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Yeah, what happened to Archie?
Maybe he got plastered in the wall cavity behind the safe...can you hear any knocking &/or muffled cries for help...?