Safe Installation

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Re: Safe Installation

Post by marksman » 14 Apr 2018, 10:24 am

I'm the type who thinks more is always better
and I don't know what the regs are in NSW but here in VIC you don't have to bolt the safe into the floor and wall
solidly bolted to the wall is enough if it is too much hassle for you to bolt into a floor
vice versa as well :thumbsup:

earlier this year a farm was broken into where the thieves stole the gun locker and the wall it was attached to also
as they used the farmers tractor to pull the safe out :lol: :lol: I shouldn't laugh :shock: :lol: :lol:
if thieves want it you can only slow them down :allegedly:
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by Sockeye » 02 May 2018, 6:28 am

Bent Arrow wrote:
Rider888 wrote:In NSW, regardless of size of safe, it needs to be bolted down for Pistols

Bent Arrow wrote:I'm interested in the responses you get to this. InSA if the safe weighs more than 150kg empty, it doesn't need to be bolted in. So much "holding" pressure do your anchor points need to provide?


Ahh yes, pistol safe......


What if my pistol safe is 1.5 tons and has no provision for bolting down?
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by Archie » 02 May 2018, 7:46 am

Sockeye wrote:
Bent Arrow wrote:
Rider888 wrote:In NSW, regardless of size of safe, it needs to be bolted down for Pistols

Bent Arrow wrote:I'm interested in the responses you get to this. InSA if the safe weighs more than 150kg empty, it doesn't need to be bolted in. So much "holding" pressure do your anchor points need to provide?


Ahh yes, pistol safe......


What if my pistol safe is 1.5 tons and has no provision for bolting down?


Well, in NSW (Queensland I have nfi) then, sucks to be you. Act says has to be secured to premises. Just being unbelievably heavy doesn't count. That said, there is a provision where the police commissioner can give approval for alternative storage arrangements deemed to be not less than the requirements. I assume thats so they can approve strongrooms etc. So maybe could get it in under that.
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by Sockeye » 02 May 2018, 4:35 pm

I am pretty sure in QLD there is a form you can fill asking for an approval of alternative storage arrangements. May need to go that pathway.
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by Rider888 » 11 May 2018, 5:30 am

Sockeye wrote:I am pretty sure in QLD there is a form you can fill asking for an approval of alternative storage arrangements. May need to go that pathway.


Or you could just drill 4 to 6 holes in the bottom as most others would.
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by sungazer » 11 May 2018, 9:02 am

Why drill the holes just cut the heads off some bolts and glue then to the base of the 1.5 ton safe or vault :D :lol:
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by trekin » 12 May 2018, 6:53 am

sungazer wrote:Why drill the holes just cut the heads off some bolts and glue then to the base of the 1.5 ton safe or vault :D :lol:

Had a mate told to do exactly that by the QPS inspection officer who said that they couldn't approve his six ton walk in safe for Cat C, D, H unless it appeared to comply with the Act. Next day, with bolt heads duly superglued in place, his safe was approved.
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by selaga » 26 Jun 2018, 3:10 pm

My builder mate put me onto RAMSET ANKASCREW this is what I have used in all my safe installations. Advantage is that it sits flush and it is removable. If using M12 will need a very big power bar w/16mm impact socket or an impact driver (1/2") to drive in. Buy it from Bunnings in gold passified or galvanised finish.

Hope that helps you guys out.

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Re: Safe Installation

Post by Stix » 26 Jun 2018, 6:52 pm

selaga wrote:My builder mate put me onto RAMSET ANKASCREW this is what I have used in all my safe installations. Advantage is that it sits flush and it is removable. If using M12 will need a very big power bar w/16mm impact socket or an impact driver (1/2") to drive in. Buy it from Bunnings in gold passified or galvanised finish.

Hope that helps you guys out.

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Im not sure how they sit flush...?...they have a head on them so unless you have 15mm thick steel thats countersunk for the head they would sit proud...?!?

And you can remove dynabolts too if installed correctly...just not as easy...
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by selaga » 27 Jun 2018, 7:26 pm

Stix wrote:
selaga wrote:My builder mate put me onto RAMSET ANKASCREW this is what I have used in all my safe installations. Advantage is that it sits flush and it is removable. If using M12 will need a very big power bar w/16mm impact socket or an impact driver (1/2") to drive in. Buy it from Bunnings in gold passified or galvanised finish.

Hope that helps you guys out.

Cheers,

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Im not sure how they sit flush...?...they have a head on them so unless you have 15mm thick steel thats countersunk for the head they would sit proud...?!?

And you can remove dynabolts too if installed correctly...just not as easy...


No centre stud protrusion like in the dynabolt and less chance to crack the concrete if close to the edge. Agree "flush" not correct term in this application...."less protrusion"....
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Re: Safe Installation

Post by Stix » 27 Jun 2018, 7:43 pm

selaga wrote:
Stix wrote:
selaga wrote:My builder mate put me onto RAMSET ANKASCREW this is what I have used in all my safe installations. Advantage is that it sits flush and it is removable. If using M12 will need a very big power bar w/16mm impact socket or an impact driver (1/2") to drive in. Buy it from Bunnings in gold passified or galvanised finish.

Hope that helps you guys out.

Cheers,

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Im not sure how they sit flush...?...they have a head on them so unless you have 15mm thick steel thats countersunk for the head they would sit proud...?!?

And you can remove dynabolts too if installed correctly...just not as easy...


No centre stud protrusion like in the dynabolt and less chance to crack the concrete if close to the edge. Agree "flush" not correct term in this application...."less protrusion"....


Ah yes...gotcha...! :thumbsup:

Screw bolts are pretty handy...the cost is a bludy rort though i rekon...only one piece vs a dynabolt being 3 pieces that need assembling...
I cant see how they cost up to 5 times the cost of a dynabolt to manufacture... :unknown:
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