Who's venturing out for a hunt?

[TassieTiger]

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[Bill]

trip has been planned for quite a while Farmerpete, as soon as the bull got off his cows we had planned to get there. His BIL has stage 4 cancer, permenant Chemo etc. Anyway looks like common sense has prevailed.

100 smarties aside Pete, mother nature is telling us we've overpopulated the planet, Im a realist and humans have pushed things too hard for too long. Anyway I can only reduces the risk under my control where as Peter Dutton as Border force Chief should be hung and quartered for his performance.

tassie tiger your the fella with verbal diarrhea

[matt4350]

Well yes, me, my kids, wench, parents and dogs have to eat, so it's definitely a necessity, as said before why the f*** would I walk into a supermarket full of potential disease ridden wares when I could pluck some meat out of the paddock and be done with it, with 0 risk of infection? Seriously

Ziege,

Re your reply to my first comment, I have been misunderstood.

I never said you were breaking the law by going out on your own property. I’m sure everyone would agree you are free to do as you please at home. My comments are directed at those who knowingly leave their homes without complying with the Home Confinement Direction. I can’t comment on the direction in WA, but in QLD a trip to your neighbour’s house to shoot a pest could potentially get you a $1334 fine.

The comment about the cab was facetious...

[Ziege]

Possibly, but with only 3 cops in town and those being asleep from 9pm till 7am and me and my neighbours being over 20km from town and the fact I don't have to Goto the neighbours house (5km away) to shoot at the back swamp reserve area between the two properties, even if I did Goto their property I wouldn't be encountering them or any other person so wouldn't be an issue, despite the fact 0 people would dob you in and police aren't going to give a s**t anyway, I'm sure probably different where properties are sub 2000 acre minimum, and more people living per area, but In my situation the last thing you will have is police aimlessly trying to work out where someone fires one or two shots on farm land when that's a daily occurrence anyway

[Peter988]

Looks like they are ramping up restrictions. States are tightening border controls even more. Victoria have now banned fishing and hunting. I suspect it’s just a matter of time before other States follow suit.

[wanneroo]

The thing is when this stuff happens, is government and the people themselves need to be grounded in common sense.

If you are not interacting with other people you are neither spreading the virus or getting it yourself.

If you are concerned about some accident happening and needing help, I can tell you from here in the USA, just got off the phone with my sister and she's telling me about how her neighbor got laid off from the hospital as an emergency room X ray tech and her friend as a nurse just got laid off because the local hospitals are dead. A lot of people are sitting at home watching tv and doing nothing and elective surgeries have been postponed. I've also seen several news articles talking about the same, hospitals laying off staff because there are few patients. If you are in a hot spot like New York City, then it's a different story but the USA is a big place, like Australia and a lot of places there isn't much going on.

The local police chief was just talking in our local news today there are few service calls or traffic stops so the local and state police are just going around checking doors at closed businesses and making sure everything stays secure.

[TassieTiger]

If you are not interacting with other people you are neither spreading the virus or getting it yourself.

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It was reported that some of the scientists that used the ruby princess (cruise ship) as an opportunity to undertake some quick diagnostics, tested surfaces a week after positive cases had left the cabins and had found live virus still living on some surfaces - if that was in fact true...then - you dont really know if the above is an accurate statement...

[Bruiser64]

Possibly, but with only 3 cops in town and those being asleep from 9pm till 7am and me and my neighbours being over 20km from town and the fact I don't have to Goto the neighbours house (5km away) to shoot at the back swamp reserve area between the two properties, even if I did Goto their property I wouldn't be encountering them or any other person so wouldn't be an issue, despite the fact 0 people would dob you in and police aren't going to give a s**t anyway, I'm sure probably different where properties are sub 2000 acre minimum, and more people living per area, but In my situation the last thing you will have is police aimlessly trying to work out where someone fires one or two shots on farm land when that's a daily occurrence anyway

In any event, here in WA there aren’t currently any stay at home orders. They are stay at home recommendations. As long as you dont cross one of the regional boundaries, you are not breaking any WA laws doing what you propose. Which is why the local police will be unconcerned.

If the Guardian can be trusted, here is an article comparing restrictions on a state and territory basis.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... two-person

The PM has on a few occasions indicated the National Cabinet has agreed what restrictions are to be rolled out. However this is done on a state by state basis. Each state decides what is appropriate to their circumstances. Victoria and NSW have higher populations. Victoria in particular would have a higher population density. So the strategies they need to impose, wouldn't be necessary in far western Queensland for example.

I would have thought each state and territory government would be acutely aware they need to be careful not to impose rules that the state populations would resist, as it would undermine what they are trying to achieve in respect of infection control. I don't think too many people in WA would be upset that our borders have been closed. As someone who lives in country WA, l am pretty happy with the regional travel restrictions as well. Our risks would come from people bringing infections to us. Which is why l am being 100% compliant with the mandatory isolation requirement I am subject to. In the unlikely event I am infected, I don’t want to spread it to anyone else.

[Blr243]

Hunting for some work is all I will b doing .......if only somebody would pay me 1000 bucks per night to hunt pigs on their crops 5 k from home .......nb....I promise not to fall asleep in a chair near the edge of the crop

[wanneroo]

If you are not interacting with other people you are neither spreading the virus or getting it yourself.

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It was reported that some of the scientists that used the ruby princess (cruise ship) as an opportunity to undertake some quick diagnostics, tested surfaces a week after positive cases had left the cabins and had found live virus still living on some surfaces - if that was in fact true...then - you dont really know if the above is an accurate statement...[/quote]

Well I asked an epidemiologist that has been doing medical research for almost 30 years about this. The answer is that just because they can extract the RNA from virus particles doesn't mean the virus is viable and able to infect. Most people are going to need significant quantities of virus particles that are viable in order to get it.

[solarpak]

Good point W - the epidemiologist is correct. Identification of organisms from viruses. bacteria up to humans is done using Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) and only requires one single strand of DNA which it amplifies (doubles) each cycle over 30 cycles of the reaction. I aint no expert on this but did do a final year unit project on this back in 1990 .

I would think that infectivity would require a significant quantity of virus like the epidemiologist suggested.
All we can do is wash our hands and limit contact only to family when needed. If our work requires that we need to cull or hunt animals i am ok with that. If your state allows hunting then thats their call and up to the individual as to what they do.

Stay safe all......
C

[Bill]

So people dont continue to spread BS

' Scientists discovered the virus is detectable for up to three hours in aerosols ( that means in the air ), up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. '

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 192755.htm

[TassieTiger]

I doubt they do anyway, but just in case anyone “might” take Bills BS as gospel...here is an article from The World Health Organisation advising of the conflicting advice re surfaces...
“is not certain how long the virus that causes COVID-19 survives on surfaces, but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses. Studies suggest that coronaviruses (including preliminary information on the COVID-19 virus) may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days. This may vary under different conditions (e.g. type of surface, temperature or humidity of the environment).”

So there is no definitive answer as Bill suggests.

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detai ... onaviruses

For someone who allegedly works in hospitals with surgeon relatives, you don’t seem overly informed with pertinent accuracy, eh Bill?

[poid]

Back on topic, the advice at the moment from DPI and cops (via SSAA) is that hunting and fishing are permitted activities, but only if they are available to you locally. They don't want people roaming the state and the cops will be patrolling backroads.

So for folk like me who live in the city tough luck (I've now cancelled my booking), but for you boys who are rural happy hunting!

EDIT: should of course say that's for NSW.

[Bill]

tassie tiger you've just rehashed what I wrote and put forward WHO as a reputable source of information

No offence but WHO are a conflicted mouth piece for the CCP

Mate stop putting you foot your mouth about something you have no knowledge off. I actually sell the 1 of the finest Bacterial/Viral filters used in the Hospital system today that filters down to 0.02 Microns. I was one of the first people in Australia to sell a Smoke/Bacterial/Viral filter for use in Operating theatres back in 1999. I still sell the same Filter today to the largest Hospitals in australia

When you burn human tissue inside the body, also sorts of particles are aerosoled inside the patient, previously these were just vented into the theatre air. I pushed and promoted a never used before Charcoal/Bacterial/Viral filter to catch containemants to protect the Surgeon, Anaethetist and theatre staff.

Some of the nasties things viable when aerosoled include Hep A, B, C, HIV and all strains of the Flu. Please refrain from trying to look like you understand everything.

[TassieTiger]

Sorry Bill. I thought you posted up definitive and steadfast numbers for the virus life on surfaces...my apolo...hang on...you did. So your calling me out for so called “understanding everything” but I wrote in support of WHO that it’s currently an “unknown”, that’s not fully understood (which is also supported by numerous other scientists - some of which are saying 7-17 days which would suck balls)... Surely, a man of your unique intelligence, with all the conjecture would see logic in not placing definitive numbers on this virus’s life?

You sell filters too? Holy craps mate, your a surgeons leading hand, a fencer, a pro shooter, a wholesaler for med supplies, a viral specialist, a cowboy - a nuclear physicist as well maybe ? In all seriousness, you might have included a bit too much info - a quick google shows your far from a handsome man

Lolz all round - don’t take me overly serious... Bring on the beer - it’s friday and most of us have survived. So

[Ferrisweil]

Fook me Tassie. You really have a bee in your bonnet about this. You seem intent on telling everyone else what to do. Why don’t you just give it a rest and let people make their own decisions without having a cry every time. You seem like a reasonably intelligent person based on your posts but honestly, if I wanted to listen to someone telling everyone what to do, I’ll go listen to my wife...

[TassieTiger]

Fook me Tassie. You really have a bee in your bonnet about this. You seem intent on telling everyone else what to do. Why don’t you just give it a rest and let people make their own decisions without having a cry every time. You seem like a reasonably intelligent person based on your posts but honestly, if I wanted to listen to someone telling everyone what to do, I’ll go listen to my wife...

Hey Ferris - where have I stayed anything other than what is being recommended?
Reason I have a bee in my bonnet is the clear and unbelievable lack of absolute common sense from so called “vetted” ppl...It baffles me...
I’m sure your wife is a very lucky lady

[Sergeant Hartman]

Hang on isn't every wife like that. Jk

[marksman]

So people dont continue to spread BS

' Scientists discovered the virus is detectable for up to three hours in aerosols ( that means in the air ), up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. '

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 192755.htm

depends on which way you hold your tongue and which way the wind is blowing as to what the truth is about what scientists actually really know Bill

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-cor ... -left.html

what we do know for fact is there are a lot of scientists with theories
but wait it will change, probably daily

[AZZA'S HJ47]

It was extremly quiet not a sole on the road the odd car here and there. Pulled my lunch from out of the cooler and headed home spoke to nobody except for me myself and I.

[Bill]

[marksman]

if you were in Victoria Bill that would not be a joke

l think l read over 120 fines issued yesterday
it will make people pull up though and do what they are supposed to be doing

[Blr243]

Think of how many hundreds of thousands of dollars it costs to have police running around issuing fines to irresponsible gatherings in the city If we all behaved , That’s money that could be used to help people already sick

[NTSOG]

G'day,

I'm going to talk to the local Rozzer tomorrow to see if he has any problem with me [alone] going 1/2 mile down the road from my property to a larger farm in the evening to see what's about. As I cycle and my wife runs each day down the same road for our daily fitness training sessions and my wife rides her horses along the roadside as well and there is B-all traffic, I can't see how going out to sit in a 100 acre paddock alone in the evening with a rifle to knock of foxes [and observe the red deer] will present a risk to anything but the foxes. Lambing season is a few months away and there are lots of foxes around coming out of pine plantations and state forest.

Jim

[marksman]

from what l have seen in Vic NTSOG its against the law to shoot or hunt
also the local DFO's are now covid19 officers so there is no one to ask "what if questions"

and a farmer friend has just let me know how the rut is going hard at the moment like rub it in
l will be staying home like a good little boy

[TassieTiger]

Tasmania has the biggest fines in the freakin country for not being where you are meant too...$16,000 buys a LOT of hunting equipment lol
I’m imagining the opportunities once this is over...should be decent.

[Maxjon]

See the National Cabinet has today announced NO firearm sales, or transfers, while covid is with us. Also no shooting, hunting, target whatever....no no!! Sux ass!

[NTSOG]

G'day marksman,

Where did you hear about the local DFOs?

As for deer, this morning out on my bike I spotted two young red deer bucks bashing the crap out of each other in a paddock before they took off over the hill. I pedaled like the clappers and snuck up on them as they crossed the road just in front of me and ran off into the pine plantation. I saw a bigger stag about 8 days ago in the same spot at the same time.

Jim

[marksman]

G'day marksman,

Where did you hear about the local DFOs?

As for deer, this morning out on my bike I spotted two young red deer bucks bashing the crap out of each other in a paddock before they took off over the hill. I pedaled like the clappers and snuck up on them as they crossed the road just in front of me and ran off into the pine plantation. I saw a bigger stag about 8 days ago in the same spot at the same time.

Jim

"Where did you hear about the local DFOs?"
my local DFO

your rubbing it in as well Jim