454 casull or 45/70 ?

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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by Hugh » 29 Sep 2017, 5:00 pm

bigpete wrote:As for shot shells,peice of cake. 7.5gn of trailboss,card wad,top up with shot,card wad, and a little glue. Easy

Any problems with the rifling?
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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by BRNO_Bigot » 29 Sep 2017, 5:10 pm

bigpete wrote:As for shot shells,peice of cake. 7.5gn of trailboss,card wad,top up with shot,card wad, and a little glue. Easy


A friend made shotshells in .45ACP. that was more fun, involving cutting down fired .308 cases, a home-made die that made a shoulder at the length of the .45ACP case (for headspacing) and then developing a load, topped by wad, shot, another wad and some sort of glue sealant.

Kept him busy for hours getting a load that patterned, but didn't eject (since he didn't want to lose the case).
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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by bigpete » 29 Sep 2017, 8:48 pm

Rifling spins the pattern out,but I've killed pigeons out to about 15m with that load
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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by Hugh » 30 Sep 2017, 6:10 am

bigpete wrote:Rifling spins the pattern out,but I've killed pigeons out to about 15m with that load

I was more worried that the wad would gum up the rifling.
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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by Hugh » 30 Sep 2017, 6:17 am

wrenchman wrote:you can look them up on google to have him compare it does sound like he just wants the 454 if this is a guided hunt the he might tell him he cant hunt with it.

The big five have been taken with this round out of a revolver,in a rifle it will be a wholly different beast.
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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by marksman » 04 Oct 2017, 9:56 am

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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by Express404 » 14 Mar 2023, 6:05 pm

1 gun criteria.. main sport Western Action... buy a 45 colt lever.. ( later a 45 colt ruger black hawk six gun).. Can be loaded up or down.. and hunt you buffalo like a bowhunter, undetected.. Stalk perfectly up to 35 to 50m shot him side on heart shot and or heart and double lungs. You back him up with your 375/458..
He will be happy...and his wife.. and you'll be talking about the exciting result for years..!! 1st shot in heart lungs ( same as bow). But if the Buffalo sees you.. back off, and go find another one feeding.
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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by bigpete » 14 Mar 2023, 6:10 pm

Express404 wrote:1 gun criteria.. main sport Western Action... buy a 45 colt lever.. ( later a 45 colt ruger black hawk six gun).. Can be loaded up or down.. and hunt you buffalo like a bowhunter, undetected.. Stalk perfectly up to 35 to 50m shot him side on heart shot and or heart and double lungs. You back him up with your 375/458..
He will be happy...and his wife.. and you'll be talking about the exciting result for years..!! 1st shot in heart lungs ( same as bow). But if the Buffalo sees you.. back off, and go find another one feeding.


You realise this thread is 6 years old now and you're answer almost makes no sense ?
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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by deye243 » 14 Mar 2023, 6:38 pm

bigpete wrote:
Express404 wrote:1 gun criteria.. main sport Western Action... buy a 45 colt lever.. ( later a 45 colt ruger black hawk six gun).. Can be loaded up or down.. and hunt you buffalo like a bowhunter, undetected.. Stalk perfectly up to 35 to 50m shot him side on heart shot and or heart and double lungs. You back him up with your 375/458..
He will be happy...and his wife.. and you'll be talking about the exciting result for years..!! 1st shot in heart lungs ( same as bow). But if the Buffalo sees you.. back off, and go find another one feeding.


You realise this thread is 6 years old now and you're answer almost makes no sense ?

Makes perfect sense to me just make sure you've got your ambulance cover up to date as the old saying goes use enough gun
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Re: 454 casull or 45/70 ?

Post by bigpete » 14 Mar 2023, 7:18 pm

deye243 wrote:
bigpete wrote:
Express404 wrote:1 gun criteria.. main sport Western Action... buy a 45 colt lever.. ( later a 45 colt ruger black hawk six gun).. Can be loaded up or down.. and hunt you buffalo like a bowhunter, undetected.. Stalk perfectly up to 35 to 50m shot him side on heart shot and or heart and double lungs. You back him up with your 375/458..
He will be happy...and his wife.. and you'll be talking about the exciting result for years..!! 1st shot in heart lungs ( same as bow). But if the Buffalo sees you.. back off, and go find another one feeding.


You realise this thread is 6 years old now and you're answer almost makes no sense ?

Makes perfect sense to me just make sure you've got your ambulance cover up to date as the old saying goes use enough gun


Again....6 year old thread.....ended up buying and selling 2 45-70s in that time,and a 458wm....
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