Hunting property's Queensland

[Dingo]

Many moons ago I had access to property In Between Stanthorpe and Texas it was advertised in the back of a hunting mag recently bought a rifle and decided to look the property up no longer the same owners - deer foxes rabbits kanga -any ideas on where is a good place to start looking for property's to hunt on that aren't going to cost an arm and a leg not to far from the big smoke . With out actually just rocking up and asking the cockie out of the blue

[Oldbloke]

Actually I would just rock up and ask the cockie out of the blue.

[Dingo]

In my hunting for a place to hunt I also found out another property I used to have access to out at Texas had sold - no other option - glad I have a mate who just moved out west and will be going visiting so will be able to go and do some door knocking .

[Smiley]

Gaining access to places can be very difficult if they don't already know you. Now days it's a case of who you know, not what you know.
Best of luck.

[Dingo]

I think I will need some luck - I have got the family farm down in tazzie but can't afford to fly down there all the time for hunting but I should be going down in April - I was looking on other forums but they were dead know of the traffic that this site has just thought I may of got some feed back of property's that people have found that have been advertised ..or at least what websites are good to book through ect ect

[Pythonkeeper]

Can be tough going now days, I've been trying to get a few new hunting property's for a bit of variety and although I've had plenty of promising leads it always ends in "no sorry we used to let people on but they stuffed up and we don't let anyone on now" or something to that effect, same old story, idiots ruining it for the rest of us honest respectful people. I'm confident I'll find more property though, it'll just take a bit of time and plenty of knock backs till I do.
Some people have had good succes finding property's through the Farmer Assist program (I think that's what it's called) so that may be an option for you to look into Dingo.

[Korkt]

Gaining access to places can be very difficult if they don't already know you. Now days it's a case of who you know, not what you know.
Best of luck.

Yeah, far more hunters than properties. Rocking up to a stranger and getting an invite would be a real stroke of luck.

[Hangfire]

You can always try out the Famer Assist program.

http://www.farmerassist.com.au

[Dingo]

Cheers for the info - I guess I will have to keep my ear to the ground - I like the idea of farmer assist- but don't want to drive more than about 5-6 hrs - when will Queensland let shooters on to crown land it would make things a lot easier for the shooters and the environment

[albat]

Another option is to do your nsw dpi r licence the northern forests are only 3 or 4 hours from brisbane and they are in the process of opening up more forests i go out there a fairly often and the licence is easy to do

[Dingo]

Will look into that cheers albat - that sounds promising

[jaydos]

Another option is to do your nsw dpi r licence the northern forests are only 3 or 4 hours from brisbane and they are in the process of opening up more forests i go out there a fairly often and the licence is easy to do

can we actually apply for these if we reside in QLD? or is it like an addition to a firearms license. If this is just something you can apply for/do the short course for to shoot in NSW state forests with a QLD license then im extremely interested.

[albat]

Another option is to do your nsw dpi r licence the northern forests are only 3 or 4 hours from brisbane and they are in the process of opening up more forests i go out there a fairly often and the licence is easy to do

can we actually apply for these if we reside in QLD? or is it like an addition to a firearms license. If this is just something you can apply for/do the short course for to shoot in NSW state forests with a QLD license then im extremely interested.

There is no restriction on where you live or what firearms licence you have they recognise all state licences

[jaydos]

Another option is to do your nsw dpi r licence the northern forests are only 3 or 4 hours from brisbane and they are in the process of opening up more forests i go out there a fairly often and the licence is easy to do

can we actually apply for these if we reside in QLD? or is it like an addition to a firearms license. If this is just something you can apply for/do the short course for to shoot in NSW state forests with a QLD license then im extremely interested.

There is no restriction on where you live or what firearms licence you have they recognise all state licences

from what i have gathered i would still have to undertake the short course though to get the license? sorry for the questions, i find its easier to ask someone who has already been through the process than scour the s**ty government website to find answers

[albat]

Just rock up and take the test takes 15minutes at sporting shooters at ipswich pre read the LEAP dpi handbook test is simple

[fussy]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post.

Selling my Tenterfield block.
50Km West of Tenterfield.
1200 acres.
Happy to do syndicate etc.

[Wapiti]

Hey fussy, you might want to think about involving others in a syndicate.
Your property location would really lend itself to hunting I'm sure as I know the area well, not sure about how it's geared for extra income like grazing etc and whether you can be there most of the time. Really essential for primary production.

Although it might bring you some extra money, you could end up sorry about that decision. Without elaborating, and I can if someone wants to know, there will be huge issues with insurance if there are a few part-owners using firearms there and if you don't get that right and there is a mishap, you could lose everything to the lawyers. Then there's the issue of sharing the property with others with financial stakes... it can become quite toxic.

I know this because a property backs onto mine where multiple people have a financial stake in it purely for the breeding, management and subsequent hunting of fallow deer, and I have spoken to some who have intimated the tensions and trouble it brings due to the individuality and personality of different people, and you can never predict how this turns out.

You should have no dramas selling your place, if it is priced to the market. Plenty of people are realising that to own a place for the reasons of getting away and being able to manage completely their hunting and country future is worth way more to their lives.

[Wapiti]

Many moons ago I had access to property In Between Stanthorpe and Texas it was advertised in the back of a hunting mag recently bought a rifle and decided to look the property up no longer the same owners - deer foxes rabbits kanga -any ideas on where is a good place to start looking for property's to hunt on that aren't going to cost an arm and a leg not to far from the big smoke . With out actually just rocking up and asking the cockie out of the blue

Hey Dingo, have you looked to see if the little set-ups that arrange (for a small fee) hunting in the area you wish to go? Example, there was a joint called Inland Hunting Properties, that did this. There was a place on our road years ago that had people on and they stayed in a small quarters to go hunting, for a fee.
In comparison to buying and paying for a place, the money it costed was peanuts, and you just booked prior into the future.

Insurance and legal responsibility is the big issue now, because too many city hunters that were allowed on to shoot after asking for permission, hurt themselves badly mucking about and subsequently sued the owners. Contrary to the false info out there, a farmers 3rd party insurance does not cover hunting, nor does the SSAA insurance. It does not indemnify the owner whatsoever. So people are just refusing access.
I have enquired from the SSAA Farmer Assist and it does not seem that they indemnify the farmer either, if they do they are refusing to tell me and this is why there are limited opportunities there and I reckon it will die completely. They will keep telling members they are providing opportunities though I'm sure.

I do know of individuals that, because of their people skills, had gone to such places initially through a "pay to hunt" set-up and made a point of befriending the owner and the result was unlimited access and friends for life. Not everyone is good at this I realise, but it had, or did have, great potential.

The best recommendation I can give is to get in your car and go for a drive and visit properties and ask. Sure, fuel costs money, but nothing is for free and those that try are winners.
Take the wife or girlfriend. Dress respectfully and humbly. No dogs, roof spotlights, dog cages on the back of a jacked up Hilux with huge wheels and gun stickers. This stuff epitomises the looks of the idiots that run up and down and poach.
Have a CV or Linked-In profile for work? Print it out and give them a copy. Sound stupid? It might to some who don't get it but it doesn't to me. It tells me you are open and honest about who you are.
And most important, why are you asking for access? If you are after clean healthy meat, to get away from the evil cities, and can help with their nasty feral issues on a regular basis too, bingo.
Don't say you're out to just shoot kangaroos and bomb up animals because of some strange character flaw. Farmers might dislike their incomes being stuffed up by unwanted animals, but they will view someone who just likes to kill things with more distaste.

[Oldbloke]

Many moons ago I had access to property In Between Stanthorpe and Texas it was advertised in the back of a hunting mag recently bought a rifle and decided to look the property up no longer the same owners - deer foxes rabbits kanga -any ideas on where is a good place to start looking for property's to hunt on that aren't going to cost an arm and a leg not to far from the big smoke . With out actually just rocking up and asking the cockie out of the blue

Hey Dingo, have you looked to see if the little set-ups that arrange (for a small fee) hunting in the area you wish to go? Example, there was a joint called Inland Hunting Properties, that did this. There was a place on our road years ago that had people on and they stayed in a small quarters to go hunting, for a fee.
In comparison to buying and paying for a place, the money it costed was peanuts, and you just booked prior into the future.

Insurance and legal responsibility is the big issue now, because too many city hunters that were allowed on to shoot after asking for permission, hurt themselves badly mucking about and subsequently sued the owners. Contrary to the false info out there, a farmers 3rd party insurance does not cover hunting, nor does the SSAA insurance. It does not indemnify the owner whatsoever. So people are just refusing access.
I have enquired from the SSAA Farmer Assist and it does not seem that they indemnify the farmer either, if they do they are refusing to tell me and this is why there are limited opportunities there and I reckon it will die completely. They will keep telling members they are providing opportunities though I'm sure.

I do know of individuals that, because of their people skills, had gone to such places initially through a "pay to hunt" set-up and made a point of befriending the owner and the result was unlimited access and friends for life. Not everyone is good at this I realise, but it had, or did have, great potential.

The best recommendation I can give is to get in your car and go for a drive and visit properties and ask. Sure, fuel costs money, but nothing is for free and those that try are winners.
Take the wife or girlfriend. Dress respectfully and humbly. No dogs, roof spotlights, dog cages on the back of a jacked up Hilux with huge wheels and gun stickers. This stuff epitomises the looks of the idiots that run up and down and poach.
Have a CV or Linked-In profile for work? Print it out and give them a copy. Sound stupid? It might to some who don't get it but it doesn't to me. It tells me you are open and honest about who you are.
And most important, why are you asking for access? If you are after clean healthy meat, to get away from the evil cities, and can help with their nasty feral issues on a regular basis too, bingo.
Don't say you're out to just shoot kangaroos and bomb up animals because of some strange character flaw. Farmers might dislike their incomes being stuffed up by unwanted animals, but they will view someone who just likes to kill things with more distaste.

This is good advice. Has worked for me.

[Wapiti]

Oh, the other thing too, is Biosecurity requirements
We're just setting up to tag out some registered heifers/bulls for our stud business, and it's something that's a big deal now.
If you don't have a really strict biosecurity plan, and a strict system of traceability and you have a professional stud, be it cattle or say, rams, and it gets out you are sloppy with letting on outsiders you will soon have no credibility.\
A professional breeder will not let anyone past the front gates without scrutiny and traceability, laugh at it because it's unknown to you all you wish.
Someone breeding everyday stuff for the saleyards can get away with it, and weekenders "just doing the farm thing" sure, unless something goes wrong.

There was a story in December's SSAA magazine about hunters providing the solution to the feral animal problems of the country, but absolutely no mention was made of any of this by the writer, because (and I'm trying to be respectful), the writer has absolutely no idea about anything other than writing trash articles that I reckon are very disinformed. Again, I'm not trying to be a smart*rse but ignorance isn't an excuse. Which confuses and falsely educates people who otherwise aren't involved in all those responsibilities and probably flames bad feelings from hunters trying to find legal places to go and can't work out what the issues are.

[Oldbloke]

Oh, the other thing too, is Biosecurity requirements
We're just setting up to tag out some registered heifers/bulls for our stud business, and it's something that's a big deal now.
If you don't have a really strict biosecurity plan, and a strict system of traceability and you have a professional stud, be it cattle or say, rams, and it gets out you are sloppy with letting on outsiders you will soon have no credibility.\
A professional breeder will not let anyone past the front gates without scrutiny and traceability, laugh at it because it's unknown to you all you wish.
Someone breeding everyday stuff for the saleyards can get away with it, and weekenders "just doing the farm thing" sure, unless something goes wrong.

There was a story in December's SSAA magazine about hunters providing the solution to the feral animal problems of the country, but absolutely no mention was made of any of this by the writer, because (and I'm trying to be respectful), the writer has absolutely no idea about anything other than writing trash articles that I reckon are very disinformed. Again, I'm not trying to be a smart*rse but ignorance isn't an excuse. Which confuses and falsely educates people who otherwise aren't involved in all those responsibilities and probably flames bad feelings from hunters trying to find legal places to go and can't work out what the issues are.

Often seen the signs and wondered. Umm, can you explain what requirements usually are? I'm sure varies tho.

[Wapiti]

Long story, but part of MLA compliance is a quality plan and a biosecurity plan. Basically, with biosecurity, all visitors and vehicles, any other animals (basically NO dogs or ANY other stock animals or offal, residue or fluids of), any vehicles or clothing from areas outside say, a tick exclusion area, or vehicles/equipment used on other properties for butchering or processing that haven't been certified commercially cleaned with certificate (imagine a dirty, average pig/roo shooting vehicle), mud, weeds and seeds present in mud/dust from another area on a vehicle. It goes on and on too.
I'm sure some of you blokes have worked on an oil/gas Greenfield site, where you cannot leave a sealed public road in a work vehicle and enter ANY farm road without a current certificate of cleanliness from an approved washdown site. Same goes for anything brought into the property visited. Just like that, but with the added extras of bringing in anything that can bring in unwanted infectious diseases and viruses of farm and feral animals that could ruin someone livelihood and destroy the ag industry.

Sounds like BS? If you haven't heard of that in a professional ag business before, you need to be aware of it and how important it is.
You havent seen the "STOP-BIOSECURITY-NO ENTRY WITHOUT MANAGENT PRIOR APPROVAL" etc etc? It's on professional farm gates everywhere mate.

[Oldbloke]

Long story, but part of MLA compliance is a quality plan and a biosecurity plan. Basically, with biosecurity, all visitors and vehicles, any other animals (basically NO dogs or ANY other stock animals or offal, residue or fluids of), any vehicles or clothing from areas outside say, a tick exclusion area, or vehicles/equipment used on other properties for butchering or processing that haven't been certified commercially cleaned with certificate (imagine a dirty, average pig/roo shooting vehicle), mud, weeds and seeds present in mud/dust from another area on a vehicle. It goes on and on too.
I'm sure some of you blokes have worked on an oil/gas Greenfield site, where you cannot leave a sealed public road in a work vehicle and enter ANY farm road without a current certificate of cleanliness from an approved washdown site. Same goes for anything brought into the property visited. Just like that, but with the added extras of bringing in anything that can bring in unwanted infectious diseases and viruses of farm and feral animals that could ruin someone livelihood and destroy the ag industry.

Sounds like BS? If you haven't heard of that in a professional ag business before, you need to be aware of it and how important it is.
You havent seen the "STOP-BIOSECURITY-NO ENTRY WITHOUT MANAGENT PRIOR APPROVAL" etc etc? It's on professional farm gates everywhere mate.

Thx

Yes, seeing them more often and certainly understand what "biosecuity" is but had no idea how seriously they take it.

[Die Judicii]

Yes, seeing them more often and certainly understand what "biosecuity" is but had no idea how seriously they take it.

It covers a huge and ever increasing list,,,,,,,,,,But with just one scenario alone,,, If Foot and Mouth got loose in Australia THEN you
would find out "how seriously they take it"

[Valdash]

You can't get acces to new places that easy so stick with a friend that already was there.

[Die Judicii]

You can't get acces to new places that easy so stick with a friend that already was there.

In general I agree with what your saying,,,,,, BUT there are exceptions.
I have heaps of properties that I shoot on at the owners requests and keep getting more new ones because of what I do.
So I have no need to go out "looking" for access.

However, the exception that I speak of came about just recently completely by accident.

I was looking for answers for some research I'm doing at the moment and made contact with a land owner by random choice.
Not knowing this bloke or his family in the least bit, I explained my reasons for making contact,, and we had a long and very interesting talk.
I got the answers I was chasing,,,,,,,,, but also got an invite.

As it turned out, he and his family own 210,000 Hectares of land.

[Coxy383]

I sold up and moved rural after COVID had enough of the world. Bought 12 acres surrounded by dairy farms and state and national park on the border up in the upper Murry....shoot deer from my deck and love it....but what I'm getting at is sometimes life changes are needed to do what we wish in life. Honestly anyone makeing 100k in a major city can move rural earn the same if not more if your prepared to milk cows or drive a tractor and live alot better life. Then your hobby of shooting / hunting is now an every day occurrence .But most people want the restaurants and shopping malls and won't make a change. If ya real. If you live rural you will get onto property. I honestly hate the hunters that are allowed on the surrounding properties. Come up from Melbourne with 1000s spent on Camo gear and just smash everything they can from a 4wd.

[Peter988]

Cheers for the info - I guess I will have to keep my ear to the ground - I like the idea of farmer assist- but don't want to drive more than about 5-6 hrs - when will Queensland let shooters on to crown land it would make things a lot easier for the shooters and the environment

I don’t get this. The more remote properties are excellent. You generally shoot mostly Roos, but most also have foxes, pigs, cats and hares. Plenty to shoot. You just commit to a longer trip. We generally go for at least a week. They provide accomodation. Win win. You are doing them a favour. And it’s not uncommon to go through a thousand shots in the week. Plus it’s very easy to get onto neighbouring properties once you show you can be trusted.

[Coxy383]

Cheers for the info - I guess I will have to keep my ear to the ground - I like the idea of farmer assist- but don't want to drive more than about 5-6 hrs - when will Queensland let shooters on to crown land it would make things a lot easier for the shooters and the environment

I don’t get this. The more remote properties are excellent. You generally shoot mostly Roos, but most also have foxes, pigs, cats and hares. Plenty to shoot. You just commit to a longer trip. We generally go for at least a week. They provide accomodation. Win win. You are doing them a favour. And it’s not uncommon to go through a thousand shots in the week. Plus it’s very easy to get onto neighbouring properties once you show you can be trusted.

City boys wanting a quick shoot. Mrs family and work probably culls all the time. More for us.

[Wapiti]

You don't get anywhere without hard work and effort.
Go where the lazy won't, and you will be rewarded.