A few less ferals

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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Stix » 29 Jul 2018, 1:45 pm

grandadbushy wrote:Yes i'm hearing ya Stix but you need only one person to see, hear or say something and council would be all over me
And i'm pretty sure they would revoke the permits for their removal ( scrubbers )
It's easier for me to leave them there and get paid


Fair enough grandad.
If they are feral, why cant you use them...?
Is it all about disease etc...?
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Elmer » 29 Jul 2018, 2:55 pm

Plenty of burgers there Grandad :thumbsup: well done mate.
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 29 Jul 2018, 4:47 pm

Thanks Wm.Traynor but I think that's a little down the track because the doctors say that i'm about where i'll stay with the knees :thumbsdown:
but it is possible for them to slowly get better but it will take a long time
That's why I push the envelope as much as I can
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 29 Jul 2018, 5:35 pm

No Stix mate its political BS I've been told by my local council that the scrubbers are not classed as feral they are classed as wild cattle therefore
they don't come under the feral umbrella and actually could belong to someone
''What a load of crap''
Awhile back there was talk of doing an aerial shoot from choppers because of the scare of TB but common sense prevailed as they wouldn't shoot
many because of the cover the cattle had with all the lantana and scrub
As far as eating them i'd eat them because there has been no recorded disease in this area
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Daddybang » 29 Jul 2018, 6:04 pm

grandadbushy wrote:No Stix mate its political BS I've been told by my local council that the scrubbers are not classed as feral they are classed as wild cattle therefore
they don't come under the feral umbrella and actually could belong to someone
''What a load of crap''
Awhile back there was talk of doing an aerial shoot from choppers because of the scare of TB but common sense prevailed as they wouldn't shoot
many because of the cover the cattle had with all the lantana and scrub
As far as eating them i'd eat them because there has been no recorded disease in this area


Wild cattle and native peacock's :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ya council lives in f@#kin dreamland granddad.
Any clean skin on a private property can be shot by the landholder or their representative
Unless it's a calf at its tagged/branded mothers foot. (As I'm sure ya know :drinks: )
The meat can be consumed on the property but cannot be taken off unless it's to be inspected for retail.
Someone needs to give ya council a slappin!!! :crazy: :drinks:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 29 Jul 2018, 9:07 pm

Yeah Daddybang that's exactly right that's why I can't take it the farmers could eat it but I don't know of any that want it
as the scrubbers aren't in the best of condition when they start coming over the mountain
As far as the council goes too many making too many wrong decisions and too much BS coming from their offices but unfortunately they
have last say
I'm just happy to keep doing the things the way I've done in the past years I get plenty of respect from the locals and farmers for taking care of the
scrubbers and ferals and the fringe benefits out weigh it all ( nuff said )
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Stix » 29 Jul 2018, 10:13 pm

Again...fair enough grandad... :thumbsup:

I was just asking out of curiosity mate.
But i cant believe you cant take meat off property if its for private comsumption...??? What about taking a bunny...??...its all just meat...!!

Governing powers are just bewildering i know...
Its abhorrent that people are homeless & csnt afford to eat yet we destroy hundreds of thousands of dollars of meat & leave it to rot.

Id almost try whip out some backstrap or fillet of that beef & sew up the skin again with fishing line...lol

But best to do the right thing... :thumbsup:

I was out couple weeks ago & watched 3 mobs of roos munching & flattening the fresh shoots of a farmers crops.
He will have some big holes in his crops this year & i dont think he reslises how bad they are...
He askes me how many i shot, i said none but could have got between 6-24...

He would prefer i bowl them over but he hasnt applied for his permit.
I offered to do paperwork & pay for tags so i can take meat but he wont do it.

I wont turn his loss of crop into my loss by me getting caught dropping a roo without permit.

I did watch a young but fully grown big Red buck kanga feeding for a while...bludy handsome fella he was & in great nik with a beautiful coat on him.
In a way im glad the farmer had no permit or i probably would have dropped that big red majestic fella,..
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 29 Jul 2018, 10:48 pm

Yeah Stix its not morally right I know with all the waste in the world today but there is too much to loose for me to not do legal and ethical
as far as my shooting goes
There are a lot of personalities , beliefs, needs and moods from farmers so I treat them all with respect and equal and have no problems thus far
and that's been 30-40 years
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Daddybang » 30 Jul 2018, 7:31 am

grandadbushy wrote:I'm just happy to keep doing the things the way I've done in the past years I get plenty of respect from the locals and farmers for taking care of the
scrubbers and ferals and the fringe benefits out weigh it all ( nuff said )


Great way to look at life grandad :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by sungazer » 30 Jul 2018, 9:55 am

Even your own farmed cattle even if you butcher them yourself or even have a professional butcher but killed on your own property by law the meat cannot leave the front gate. You have to take cattle to a registered slaughter house. Crazy stuff really.
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Post by Daddybang » 30 Jul 2018, 10:15 am

sungazer wrote:Even your own farmed cattle even if you butcher them yourself or even have a professional butcher but killed on your own property by law the meat cannot leave the front gate. You have to take cattle to a registered slaughter house. Crazy stuff really.


Yep and then the same Galah's that make these decisions. Are the first to jump up and down about the starving Masses!!! :crazy:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 30 Jul 2018, 10:39 am

Yes that's right here in qld we can't keep rabbits for our own eating but they run wild here it doesn't make sense
A domestic rabbit probably wouldn't survive in the wild after being bred in captivity although you wouldn't know
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by bigrich » 31 Jul 2018, 4:56 pm

HHMMMMM , the meat cant leave the property ay ? next time ya have a cull GDB, how about a BIG BBQ for all ya friends on "enough gun" ? stix would probably drive up from south oz for it :lol: with a HUUUUGE doggy bag :lol: i got a mate in the trucking game, i'll see if he can get a pallet of beer to go with all that beef :drinks: then all we need is a chaff cutter and a bathtub to make a salad....... :thumbsup:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 02 Aug 2018, 5:24 pm

Sounds good bigrich we''ll just feed the salad goods through the cane harvester she'll chop it into tiny pieces :D :lol: :thumbsup:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 27 Aug 2018, 7:30 pm

Got this one about ten minutes ago :thumbsup:
They're starting to move now getting dry and the bitches are coming into season
This one was a bitch and only 75yds from the house
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Oldbloke » 27 Aug 2018, 7:51 pm

Sheesh. There must be truck loads of dogs up your way. Same for foxes down here.

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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 12 Sep 2018, 7:07 pm

Another pest down she's about 3-5yr old X :thumbsup:
I haven't really chased them hard this year but still knocking them over in numbers this one is number 20 :thumbsup:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 12 Sep 2018, 9:18 pm

Nah Stix mate they are nearly all shanky this year and being dry as a dog turd in a desert up here they stink like a dead carcass
because most of their food now is rotting animals that have died from the dry
I don't keep skins at all tried tanning a few years back but don't bother now but my son is starting to get into it and he gets enough for himself
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Oldbloke » 12 Sep 2018, 10:00 pm

Did you use the 7m mag?
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 12 Sep 2018, 10:11 pm

No Oldbloke it was locked away i was cleaning the 22-250 when the farmer rang about the dog so i took the 22-250
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by duncan61 » 13 Sep 2018, 6:21 pm

When I was living at the dairy farm we had a hill block that we kept our herd that was too young to impregnate.The adjoining property was about 3000Ha and the owner bought down a lot of wild N/W cattle to tame down and fatten up.They must of had babies cos we started getting juvenile bulls in with our teen Fresians.Happy days when the farmer called and told me there were bulls in the herd and I would go straight up and deal with it.I got 2 small tan bulls one time however the coolbox was in Bunbury and my mates dad boned them all out and sold it.I never even got a piece of steak.The roo burgers he made were very good though
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 13 Sep 2018, 7:01 pm

I don't think you missed much Duncan as sometimes the wild cattle taste like what they eat
It would depend on what they've been eating up here we have a massive problem with lantana and the scrubbers have a twang
taste in their meat especially the ones around here from the lantana country
I've hung them in a cold room for a bloke for 2 weeks and the taste was still there he fed most of it to his working dogs
If you cut their throats instantly it does take some of the taste out but most times you have to walk in to them and that can be between 10min to 20min
and some you just couldn't get out the country's too rough
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by duncan61 » 14 Sep 2018, 9:59 am

The little Micky bulls I shot were trying to hump our Friesians but were obviously not getting anywhere as the height difference was an issue the back legs weighed 35 Kg and the front quarters 45 Kg so they were very small and young.It kinda finished my relationship with the Bunbury connection as the son had done a good job of putting one of my coolrooms in at his house and we were culling roos as a business.Soon after we started his dad asked us if we get small ones could he bone them out and make burgers we agreed and deliberately shot small roos for him but over time he started to bone everything as he had a ready market with the Aborigional people living in the area.The burgers he made were first class and he had an industrial mincer and started buying carrots and onions by the sackful.I put 45 kangaroos and 3 cows in the box over 3 weeks and when the truck came there were 17 roos left.It got a bit silly I still paid the power and paid the son half but was losing all the meat.There was no bad feelings He just got in to it full on and even moaned at me once for not getting him enough meat that month.He ended up getting broke into by the customers he had generated and they stole his money tin which had over $10,000 AUD.I totally get where he was coming from some idiot gave him a Coolroom and put super fresh meat in it and he just got a cottage industry he could make his beer money from.Where the Coolroom was before the same stuff happened I delivered quartered cows to the factory and when we lifted the skin all the fillet was gone.I ended up going to the Gascoyne and doing it properly on my own and now I am back I dont get too excited when people promise me the moon and the stars.There is a limited market for kangaroo in Perth as most proccessers have gone and the few remaining have their own loyal guys.Had a lot of fun and ate a lot of burgers. :D :D :D
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 14 Sep 2018, 10:11 am

Daddybang I bet they taste funny then mate especially after being dead for a day or so :) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes I don't know they say lantana is poisonous to cattle but when wild cattle have little to eat they do nibble on lantana :thumbsup:
i'm not sure at what stage of growth they eat it but you can smell it in the stomach contents :wtf:
A few farmers around here bought camels as they were told they'd eat lantana but I know a few farmers that had camels die from lantana
whether they ate too much or not is unknown :unknown: :crazy:
But camels will eat the grass before they eat the lantana so they have to be put into a paddock with mainly lantana before they will eat it
Fekken waste of time and effort if you ask me :silent: :silent: :|
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 14 Sep 2018, 11:56 am

We had a couple of tea leaf smokers come up from down south and after being told that lantana dried and smoked gives you a
good high they tried some :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
When asked if it give them that feeling they said yes but were too sick to enjoy it fekken nearly killed me one said :lol: :lol:
Marvelous what people will believe without proof :lol: :lol: :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Daddybang » 14 Sep 2018, 12:49 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :drinks:
That's one of the F@#ken funniest things I've heard all bloody week :thumbsup: :friends: :drinks:
I've got smaller breeds of cows we're experimenting with so yeah its probably a size +amount eaten+ stage of growth that kills'em we lost 6 before we figured out what it was !!! :oops: :drinks:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 14 Sep 2018, 6:23 pm

Geez 6 mate that's a bugger another one to watch for is what we call ZAMIA or however you spell it it grows like a grass tree
which is sometimes referred to as blackboy
but it has a fern type leaf and usually has round green seeds the size of a big marble clustered around the leaf butts
This plant if eaten will cripple the animal in the back legs
It also grows in grass tree country but not restricted to that a lot of plant lovers used to buy them from plant nurseries
and plant them in their back yards so they could be anywhere :thumbsdown:
I my memory serves me right I think they are a family of the cicad
Just a bit of trivia that might be handy mate :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by duncan61 » 14 Sep 2018, 7:55 pm

You people must be in the north.I did a bit of time at Tully battle school and you cant stir your tea with a stick up there cos you will probably die
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 14 Sep 2018, 8:32 pm

Only if the fuse is lit ;) :) :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :silent:










Sorry Duncan mate just my silly sense of humor :thumbsup: :drinks: :drinks: :friends:
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Re: A few less ferals

Post by Member-Deleted » 14 Sep 2018, 9:25 pm

Yeah Duncan61 mate I am from north and yes there a few poisonous plants and vines I would class the moonlighter
is the one to avoid , its sting is very painful i've been hit a few times whilst walking through thick scrub
You can't see it unless you're looking for it especially when racing through the scrub while trying to keep up with the
dogs on a pig
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