NSW DPI- Kangaroo Management volunteer shooters

Game hunting and large prey. Deer stalking, hunting with hounds. Boar, pigs etc., large prey, culling, hunting large feral animals.

Re: NSW DPI- Kangaroo Management volunteer shooters

Post by NUTSACK » 21 Aug 2018, 7:22 pm

Funny how none of this crap mattered in the old days and people just got on with life and still managed to get the job done, now everyone's trying to control everything to the nth degree, the worlds gone f***ing made with the way everything is trying to be controlled to such a degree.

I'm sure one day we will be told how often we can s**t and have a root. :unknown:

I can honestly say I haven't had one farmer talk to me about biosecurity maybe it's something for down Wimbledon way? mind you I do see a lot of serrated tussock out this way in my travels, not sure why it's not so feared around here? :unknown:[/quote]


Oh ye the good ol' days when we had horse and cart and would never really travel far or visit many properties or travel hundreds of km's per day..the spread of weeds/seeds and other Biosecurity matter these days is a problem and that's part of what it's about.

I hate the control or being told what to do probably more than most but knowing a bit more about it now it does make more sense and farmers who run a good show are buying into it more and realise its importance..
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Re: NSW DPI- Kangaroo Management volunteer shooters

Post by Daddybang » 21 Aug 2018, 7:33 pm

Unfortunately unless ya put a 20ft wall and a roof on ya property biosecurity isn't going to do anything to stop the birds rats animals (both feral and native) from crossing a property line. :drinks:
This hard living ain't as easy as it used to be!!!
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Re: NSW DPI- Kangaroo Management volunteer shooters

Post by NUTSACK » 21 Aug 2018, 7:36 pm

Rod_outbak wrote:Yeah, being one of the landholders who has had this Biosecurity crap forced upon him, I can tell you that the vast majority of landholders dont want it, but have no choice. If you want to sell any Livestock and most crops in Australia, you will need to comply with the new Biosecurity laws.

As far as I can see, it's been introduced to keep a small proportion of specialist producers happy, and at the expense of everyone else. Our state Agri-Political organization stayed silent about the implications of the implementation of the new Biosecurity laws for THREE FREAKING YEARS, and then basically told us all we wouldnt be able to sell any livestock if we dont comply.
It is freaking, utterly stupid CRAP, and the people enforcing it dont care how unrealistic the new laws have become.

Dont assume it's the Landholder pushing this; they have ended up being the meat in a freaking big sandwich (that's considering going full vegan)...

At one stage, we were going to be expected to log the entry/exit of every vehicle that comes onto the place. Given there is 18kms of B-Class public road running through the middle of the property, just how likely is it we can get everyone to sign 'the book'?? Our mailman is barely able to actually deliver or pick up mail, so what chances have I got of that nut-case signing the book twice a week?
Biggest load of horse-poop EVER.
Take a look at how 2-faced the Biosecurity laws are, when you look at the excessive restrictions on landholders, compared to the fact that importers seem to keep importing infected seafood!
Every time I hear someone talk about the importance of Biosecurity in this country, I have to resist punching them in the face.
I'm all for protecting our ability to produce, but it has to be realistic and practical; not La-La Land garbage.

Sorry; Rant over.

Cheers,

Rod.


Whilst i do agree with parts of what you say and i'm all for making things practical and realistic but you say "the people enforcing it dont care how unrealistic the new laws have become", well its not really up to these people, they are just doing a job and have no say in it. Kind of like blaming a copper for the laws you don't agree with..But like eveything in this country now its over the top to protect a minority but the majority have to live with it..
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Re: NSW DPI- Kangaroo Management volunteer shooters

Post by NUTSACK » 21 Aug 2018, 7:38 pm

Daddybang wrote:Unfortunately unless ya put a 20ft wall and a roof on ya property biosecurity isn't going to do anything to stop the birds rats animals (both feral and native) from crossing a property line. :drinks:



Correct but some sort of effort needs to be made with things we can control. Or at least the people above need to be seen like they are doing something..
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Re: NSW DPI- Kangaroo Management volunteer shooters

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 21 Aug 2018, 8:30 pm

Well from my side of the fence biosecurity is very important for me. I could do better but I suppose I have to strike a balance between what's practical and the best practices. I see the importance in intensive animal farming, wines and I suppose fruit farms?????. I also get the power ppl to wash down their trucks and outside people are only allowed in certain parts of the property..ie the boundary.

On the other hand, I suppose I too don't see the importance of it for cropping and livestock as the instances of diseases aren't as prevalent. But I suppose it keeps a government department busy. Also I am not a cropping farmer.

It's not just biosecurity, we have a small flock of sheep (4 ewes and a ram). It first started with etags for the sheep. But now you have to do a truck load of paperwork and a course i to get accreditation, and be open for audits etc etc etc.... we only have 2 or 3 lambs to sell a year. So I cancelled my NILS.

Basically the point is, like all of these types of rules it makes it very hard for a hobby person to do the right thing.... and all this means is the increase of backyard and dodgy sellers... and the departments have no control over what happens as they officially don't know
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Re: NSW DPI- Kangaroo Management volunteer shooters

Post by NUTSACK » 22 Aug 2018, 8:02 am

In regards to the NLIS stuff it’s about traceability incase of an outbreak like foot and mouth etc
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