Pig / Deer Rifle? Tikka T3x CTR .308 - Advice for a NOOB

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Pig / Deer Rifle? Tikka T3x CTR .308 - Advice for a NOOB

Post by Bombus1 » 08 Aug 2019, 4:10 pm

Hi all. Apologies if this has been asked a million times. I'm just getting back into shooting (haven't done anything in 20 years) and am looking to go pig hunting (I live in WA) and also Deer hunting (in Vic Highlands with my brother who lives over that way).

I've done a bit of research and am considering the Tikka T3x CTR S/S in .308. It is pretty exy though and over my $2k budget for a rifle (I've been quoted nearly $2,500 for this - but comes with spare mag and muzzle break).

I would certainly welcome some feedback on this given what I want to do, including:

1. Rifle Selection - given what i want to do with it per above. I see Howa's are comparable? How do they stack up?
2. Optics Selection - have been recommended the Bushnell Elite 4500 4-16x40. Are these decent? Any other brands/models i should consider
3. Good gun shop (price/service) in WA - will also consider Oz wide too and will share the love to whomever wants my business essentially.

As a lot of you on here are very experienced, I'd really appreciate your opinions and advice.

Thanks everyone and looking forward to getting back into the swing!!! :thumbsup:
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Post by evilstig » 09 Aug 2019, 11:10 am

A 308 or 270 Calibre will cover you for both Animals.

If you want to go cheaper but not less quality, A Howa, Ruger american or Mosserg Patriot will get you there no problem.

As for a scope. HAWKE VANTAGE 6-24×50 (about $415 from shooters delight Qld) i can recommend it.

Muzzle breaks buy from Gunbloke off Ebay. they around $100

You would be looking at $1100-$1400


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Post by Oldbloke » 09 Aug 2019, 11:24 am

Dont get tied up too much with specialised gear.

Any reasonable 308, 270. 30-06 will do the job no problems. 1.5 moa is good enough.

Scope, again stick to the commonly use gear.
3-9x40 or 2-7x40. or a 4x40 fixed. Dont fall for scopes with small objective lenses, they are sheet late evening.

PS. I wouldnt bother with a muzzle brake
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Post by Blr243 » 09 Aug 2019, 11:37 am

I find that when hunting I don’t often have time or discipline to wear ear protection....for this reason I would never hunt with a brake
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Post by Blr243 » 09 Aug 2019, 11:39 am

Is west oz a sad place to be for a hunter..? When I lived in Kimberley’s decades ago there was only donkeys to shoot
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Post by duncan61 » 09 Aug 2019, 1:25 pm

biggest pigs in Australia are in the Kimberleys and now the Buffalo are starting to spread.The pig I am refering to I saw a while ago and It was shot by a pro shooter who had a hydraulic hoist and this pig is just about tipping his ute over It was a massive ginger boar and he head shot it with a .223 on his way back to camp after culling all night.Like the top end the ground is soft so their tusk dont wear down as much as areas with harder soil,I shot an estimated 250Lb boar on a buffalo safari in Arhnem land and its tusks were pristine
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Post by flutch » 09 Aug 2019, 1:32 pm

bloody tikkas, save yaself the financial pain and get a howa

also as mentioned before the 270 is a goer, another tid bit, 30-06 out-shoots a 308 and in a lot of cases the 270 out-shoots the 30-06 for both trajectory and energy... so my vote would be with 270.
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Post by bigfellascott » 09 Aug 2019, 1:35 pm

I wouldn't go putting a high mag scope on a hunting rifle that will be used for pigs and deer and certainly not one with side focus - any good quality 3-9x50 will get the job done.

I'd also pick a light rifle if you intend doing a lot of walking (which you will be doing if you are hunting deer in Vic.

The 308 will get the job done and not to hard on the shoulders and ears, you don't need a muzzle brake on hunting rifle so don't waste your time and money on one, you don't need a rifle with 10rd mag capacity either as most times you are lucky to get 1 or 2 shots off before everything disappears so don't waste your time buying stuff you won't ever need.
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Post by flutch » 09 Aug 2019, 1:49 pm

Blr243 wrote:Is west oz a sad place to be for a hunter..? When I lived in Kimberley’s decades ago there was only donkeys to shoot



Depends how opposed you are to heading on a drive.... there are hogs, deer, cats, foxes, rabbits, camels, donkeys, horses, goats, water buff, scrub bulls etc etc...

thing is in WA there is no legal hunting in state and national forest, and unless youre in the know, or know someone in the know and arent a complete poser or d**khead or noob with too much bravado, you wont be getting onto 95+% of places. Another point is like myself, most are very reluctant to take newbies shooting because the majority dont have someone to go with or somewhere to shoot for a reason (gut shooting, miss too much, equipment is sub par, dont chip in for costs, shoot livestock, just plain careless and dangerous, white ants {go back to your property without you and without permission}, poach, raid dams, sook and whine, damage property or equipment), So this can make it a glum place for blow ins that dont have family/friends/work connections to gain access to these places.
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Post by mickb » 09 Aug 2019, 2:46 pm

308 is a great choice, it kills everything in the list above which are also in QLD too. The advantage over 270 is with 308 you can load up heavier bullets for the big stuff, 200-250 grain softpoints if you want. I would not feel undergunned plugging big scrub bulls with that.

Being a cheap arse, I make do with cheaper brands but two of my relatives got 270's in Tikka and cant say enough about them. 3-9x power scope is all I would bother with and no muzzle brake.

Coming from a perspective of big game rifles with muzzle brakes, which was all they were really seen on 20 years ago(along with long range rifles), I personally dont have any interest in them on medium bores. Particularly the 308 with its moderate powder capacity. A case could be made for tripod shooting and stuff like 300 win mag, which burns a ton more powder( and recoil) but general hunting with a 308, I just don't see it worthwhile for the extra weight, barrel length and noise.
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 09 Aug 2019, 2:56 pm

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A scope with that much magnification could be too big but I am basing that on my Qld experience where a long shot is 100 yards. Also, a lower powered scope will give you a wider field of view for running shots, which were not uncommon here. Again, WA could be different for all I know.
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Post by flutch » 09 Aug 2019, 4:07 pm

mickb wrote:308 is a great choice, it kills everything in the list above which are also in QLD too. The advantage over 270 is with 308 you can load up heavier bullets for the big stuff, 200-250 grain softpoints if you want. I would not feel undergunned plugging big scrub bulls with that.

Being a cheap arse, I make do with cheaper brands but two of my relatives got 270's in Tikka and cant say enough about them. 3-9x power scope is all I would bother with and no muzzle brake.

Coming from a perspective of big game rifles with muzzle brakes, which was all they were really seen on 20 years ago(along with long range rifles), I personally dont have any interest in them on medium bores. Particularly the 308 with its moderate powder capacity. A case could be made for tripod shooting and stuff like 300 win mag, which burns a ton more powder( and recoil) but general hunting with a 308, I just don't see it worthwhile for the extra weight, barrel length and noise.



you wont fit a 308 loaded with 200gn projies into a tikka magazine... just saying... and tbh, if you really wanna use rounds that heavy just bite the bullet and buy a 300win or bigger. especially for a noob, using anything that heavy in a 308 is going to require some pretty serious knowledge of the rifles "dope" that which a noob isnt going to have a handle on. I still say go the 300 win, but then again i dont own anything in centerfire that shoots slower than 3100fps, takes all the guess work out of it.
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Post by Bombus1 » 09 Aug 2019, 4:38 pm

evilstig wrote:A 308 or 270 Calibre will cover you for both Animals.

If you want to go cheaper but not less quality, A Howa, Ruger american or Mosserg Patriot will get you there no problem.

As for a scope. HAWKE VANTAGE 6-24×50 (about $415 from shooters delight Qld) i can recommend it.

Muzzle breaks buy from Gunbloke off Ebay. they around $100

You would be looking at $1100-$1400


Hope this helps


This helps a heap! Obviously a lot of choices out there and I don't want to make a rookie mistake when buying! I've checked out the Howas and the saving compared to Tikka is pretty significant.

I'd prefer an S/S but some of the packages with blued are pretty darn good too.

Appreciate the advice!!
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Post by Bombus1 » 09 Aug 2019, 4:41 pm

mickb wrote:308 is a great choice, it kills everything in the list above which are also in QLD too. The advantage over 270 is with 308 you can load up heavier bullets for the big stuff, 200-250 grain softpoints if you want. I would not feel undergunned plugging big scrub bulls with that.

Being a cheap arse, I make do with cheaper brands but two of my relatives got 270's in Tikka and cant say enough about them. 3-9x power scope is all I would bother with and no muzzle brake.

Coming from a perspective of big game rifles with muzzle brakes, which was all they were really seen on 20 years ago(along with long range rifles), I personally dont have any interest in them on medium bores. Particularly the 308 with its moderate powder capacity. A case could be made for tripod shooting and stuff like 300 win mag, which burns a ton more powder( and recoil) but general hunting with a 308, I just don't see it worthwhile for the extra weight, barrel length and noise.


Awesome and appreciate the advice. Yeah, reckon I'll give the muzzle break a miss. They were going to be included in a package as the Tikka came with a threaded barrel but not fussed based on the good feedback on here. :thumbsup:
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Post by Bombus1 » 09 Aug 2019, 4:43 pm

Blr243 wrote:I find that when hunting I don’t often have time or discipline to wear ear protection....for this reason I would never hunt with a brake


bloody good point! Reckon I'll give them a miss.
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Post by Bombus1 » 09 Aug 2019, 5:34 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Bombus1
A scope with that much magnification could be too big but I am basing that on my Qld experience where a long shot is 100 yards. Also, a lower powered scope will give you a wider field of view for running shots, which were not uncommon here. Again, WA could be different for all I know.
Good hunting mate :thumbsup:


Yep - fair point. Reckon i'll be looking at 200 yards plus though...going on what others have said. Especially deer hunting...prob not so much the pigs over here in WA though but I'll just suck it and see I guess.
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Post by Bombus1 » 09 Aug 2019, 5:38 pm

flutch wrote:
Blr243 wrote:Is west oz a sad place to be for a hunter..? When I lived in Kimberley’s decades ago there was only donkeys to shoot



Depends how opposed you are to heading on a drive.... there are hogs, deer, cats, foxes, rabbits, camels, donkeys, horses, goats, water buff, scrub bulls etc etc...

thing is in WA there is no legal hunting in state and national forest, and unless youre in the know, or know someone in the know and arent a complete poser or d**khead or noob with too much bravado, you wont be getting onto 95+% of places. Another point is like myself, most are very reluctant to take newbies shooting because the majority dont have someone to go with or somewhere to shoot for a reason (gut shooting, miss too much, equipment is sub par, dont chip in for costs, shoot livestock, just plain careless and dangerous, white ants {go back to your property without you and without permission}, poach, raid dams, sook and whine, damage property or equipment), So this can make it a glum place for blow ins that dont have family/friends/work connections to gain access to these places.


I hear you Flutch. Definitely not worth the hassle a lot of the time and damn hard unless you have your own property or permission from someone you know well...
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Post by Bombus1 » 09 Aug 2019, 5:42 pm

bigfellascott wrote:I wouldn't go putting a high mag scope on a hunting rifle that will be used for pigs and deer and certainly not one with side focus - any good quality 3-9x50 will get the job done.

I'd also pick a light rifle if you intend doing a lot of walking (which you will be doing if you are hunting deer in Vic.

The 308 will get the job done and not to hard on the shoulders and ears, you don't need a muzzle brake on hunting rifle so don't waste your time and money on one, you don't need a rifle with 10rd mag capacity either as most times you are lucky to get 1 or 2 shots off before everything disappears so don't waste your time buying stuff you won't ever need.


Very sound advice and have been wary about the weight of the rifles I've looked at so far! Cheers bigfellascott 8-)

Reckon the Howa might be the way to go...either .308 or .270 and happy to be convinced of either.

Just need to find a decent gun shop in Perth metro to sort me out. Will need the works really - gun safe, bag, optics (3-9x50 sounds like the go!), etc.
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