9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by AusC » 22 May 2014, 10:40 am

Any of those comfortably do the business hunting in Victoria.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by MeccaOz » 22 May 2014, 11:50 am

AusC wrote:Any of those comfortably do the business hunting in Victoria.


Yup !
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by handofcod » 22 May 2014, 2:45 pm

yoshie wrote:Defiantly one to work up to tho, especially if you get into reloading. I find its recoil 'large' kind of like a 45-70, but not 'snappy' like a 300WM


I have to admit that my experience with different rifles is very limited but I found the difference between my 308 scout and a Tikka 300WM shooting 180gr factory ammo to be fairly close. The scout has a lot of blast (if that's the right word) because of the short barrel while the Tikka had more push. Both were comfortable shooting while standing and tbh I was expecting the 300 to be a lot more of a hard kick.

I borrowed the Tikka at Little River from a young guy trying to shoot it off the bench. He wasn't doing well from what I could tell. His friend that had just bought a 338WM even less so.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by Sakoh » 22 May 2014, 2:47 pm

handofcod wrote:The scout has a lot of blast (if that's the right word) because of the short barrel while the Tikka had more push.


The Scout is heavier which would take out some of the push of course.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by RDobber » 22 May 2014, 3:49 pm

handofcod wrote:I have to admit that my experience with different rifles is very limited but I found the difference between my 308 scout and a Tikka 300WM shooting 180gr factory ammo to be fairly close. The scout has a lot of blast (if that's the right word) because of the short barrel while the Tikka had more push.


That sounds odd to me.

What Tikka are we talking about exactly?

The Scout is a heavy rifle (as mentioned), in the same calibre as a Tikka the weight would make the felt recoil less.

300 Win Mag has noticeably more recoil to me in equal rifles.

Not calling you a liar :lol: just, yeah... Perspective is everything I suppose.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by handofcod » 22 May 2014, 4:38 pm

It was a Tikka Hunter which is 3.2kg according to the website. The advertised weight of the scout is 7.1lb which is more or less equivalent I think.

There's definitely more force involved and I remember thinking I'd have trouble getting back on target because of the muzzle climbing more than I'm used to but it wasn't what I was expecting, ie a super hard wallop and a bruised shoulder.

I remember shooting the scout off the bench for the first time and hating it. I had little experience with a 308 at the time and I felt like I was taking a bashing after five shots. But now when I take a step down to the 223 it feels positively under powered. I say this because the step up from 22lr to 308 was difficult with my inexperience and for a while I felt like I should just sell it but i got used to it and now love to shoot it! But taking the step from the 308 to 300WM was not nearly as steep. Definitely something that I can manage at my experience level (which isn't much truth be told).
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by yoshie » 22 May 2014, 5:21 pm

I've shot a 308, 30-06 and a 300 WM all in the same rifles (Tikka T3 lites). I can tell you they all recoil more than the last, kind of like a graduate step up each time. One thing I've noticed, which may be a perception thing is the WM/RM cases tend to be snappy in recoil (velocity), but when you in up in caliber, it feels bigger (volume). The 485 WM is both, and not very pleasant. I tend to notice velocity more and find it unpleasant (7mmRM in a Tikka lite ). I much prefer volume (9.3x62 or a 444 marlin) over velocity. Kinda like V8 verse turbos. Some people like speed, I like big lumps of lead.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by RDobber » 23 May 2014, 1:31 pm

yoshie wrote:I've shot a 308, 30-06 and a 300 WM all in the same rifles (Tikka T3 lites). I can tell you they all recoil more than the last, kind of like a graduate step up each time.


Same in my experience... Same rifles...

A bit different comparing with different rifles like HOC's situation so I suppose that makes the comparison a bit more difficult.

Not that it really changes the situation I guess. Whatever recoil HOC feels is the recoil he feels.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by feedr » 23 May 2014, 1:33 pm

Like handofcod touched on, experience is a big factor in felt recoil too don't forget.

If you've never fired a rifle in your life, .308 seems like a canon.

If you've been shooting a .308 for every a 300 WM is only going to seem like a step up.

Hard to compare them objectively if you're already experienced with one of them? I think that's fair to say.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by yoshie » 23 May 2014, 3:39 pm

I remember when I got my 243, I thought that was a canon, 100 grainers were unbearable, now I don't even notice my 30-06.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by Lorgar » 25 May 2014, 7:56 pm

yoshie wrote:I remember when I got my 243, I thought that was a canon, 100 grainers were unbearable, now I don't even notice my 30-06.


Ha ha.

I was exactly the same. 95gr factory ammo and I thought 'Oh s**t, I've made a mistake buying this' :lol:

Like you say, now though... No worries shooting 308, 300WM etc.

The occasional proper canon too ;)
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by johncz » 21 May 2019, 3:20 pm

I don't have a 9.3x62 however I have .243w/308w/300wm/270w and have shot a lot of big bore/magnum rifles and I think we (Aussies) overlook large calibers as they aren't common here, we reach for a yank magnum long before an efficient European big bore. As I understand it the 9.3x62, 35 Whelen and 338-06 are all wonderfull all-round cartridges when loaded appropriately for the chosen game.
IMO I reckon a 22" barrelled sporter chambered in 9.3x62 with a low powered scope would be a great bush rifle for pigs and deer, recoil aside you don't shoot that much in the bush anyway, you could always thread the barrel for a brake when practicing.
By the way a sharp shouldered magnum with 180+ grainers will kick just as much if not more considering the powder column weight when fired.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by bigpete » 21 May 2019, 7:37 pm

I'd have bought it in a flash...
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by Bill » 22 May 2019, 8:21 am

Ive had 3 x 9.3x62 and its a pussy cat to shoot still have 1 in the safe.

Funny how 350 RM/35 Whelen and 375 H&H all have been favorite deer rounds and the 9.3 just does the same without any reloading fuss
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by TassieTiger » 22 May 2019, 6:08 pm

Felt recoil is very much dependant not only on experience but also on - type of rifle it’s chambered in, ammunition being used AND what type of shooting your doing - shoot an 08 at a deer after stalking for 3 hours, you won’t feel a thing, lay prone on the ground - and it will teach you the word = collarbone.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by bigpete » 22 May 2019, 6:47 pm

As in a 308 ? Lol
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by Bill » 22 May 2019, 7:25 pm

All 3 of my 9.3s had timber stocks and barrels from 18 to 26inches. Recoil a good thump

A 300WSM tikka battue with similar recoil and energy was worse in recoil, tupperware stock and recoil velocity made it annoying to shoot
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by TassieTiger » 22 May 2019, 8:06 pm

bigpete wrote:As in a 308 ? Lol


Nah. 508 lol. Thought 308 was mentioned enough already.

I’ve fired some 270’s that literally hurt, I’ve fired a 338 lapua that didn’t. Magnum 3 inch 12g shells don’t cause too much concern from my u/o - put same cartridges in my sxs and I’ll chip my teeth grimacing. My friends 45/70 should have hurt more than it did yet my 260 can catch the unaware out with a surprise boot if not held properly.
3 of my previous 30-06’s I could shoot all day long from any position,,but my latest lightweight 30-06 is kicking my arse.

Personally, I’d never let a new shooter pull the trigger on anything bigger than a .223 to start with.
I’ve known ppl who have shot .22’s all their life - put em on a centrefire and they poop... the first time at least.
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Re: 9.3x62mm "the perfect deer round"

Post by mickb » 28 May 2019, 4:16 pm

I think recoil is also partly your expectation and conditioning to it. My first bigbore a 460 weatherby- hurt me every time, I was a skinny 20 year old and sold it after a box and half of ammo. Later I got back into 416 rigbys and 500+ wildcats and it didn't bother me. The really big guns you are employing a certain grip to keep the forend down and also the massive bullet torque from the rifling starts to have an effect on your hold too. Then occasionally I'd shoot with someones lightweight 300 and it would really dig into me. I think the different recoil speed or even shape of the stock effected the muscles in a way they weren't used to. Couldn't figure it out exactly.
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