Pigs, skin, gut and cut. Whats your method..

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Re: Pigs, skin, gut and cut. Whats your method..

Post by Lorgar » 22 Dec 2014, 4:57 pm

Whatever you do don't just take the legs and leave the rest.

Shoulder and the neck, best bits of an oinker. (Off topic but same for deer).

Wasted by too many on lots of game hunting to just take the easy bits.
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Re: Pigs, skin, gut and cut. Whats your method..

Post by Oldbloke » 22 Dec 2014, 7:05 pm

Just for good hygiene reasons a pair of latex or rubber gloves along with a P1 mask will greatly reduce the risk of you catching any bacteria, virus or parasite.

And if you avoid opening up the gut even better.

edit : correction. P1 will prevent the vapours. A P2 for the bacteria
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Re: Pigs, skin, gut and cut. Whats your method..

Post by deanp100 » 22 Dec 2014, 7:08 pm

Lorgar wrote:Whatever you do don't just take the legs and leave the rest.

Shoulder and the neck, best bits of an oinker. (Off topic but same for deer).

Wasted by too many on lots of game hunting to just take the easy bits.



Certainly take the whole pig, but this then requires full dressing out and that might be a bigger step than you are ready to take first up.
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Post by petemacsydney » 22 Dec 2014, 8:19 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Just for good hygiene reasons a pair of latex or rubber gloves along with a P1 mask will greatly reduce the risk of you catching any bacteria, virus or parisite. And if you avoid opening up the gut even better.


what is a p1 mask?
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Re: Pigs, skin, gut and cut. Whats your method..

Post by 1290 » 22 Dec 2014, 8:22 pm

Particulate..... for real??? It's not ebola season is it?? :lol: :lol:
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Post by Oldbloke » 22 Dec 2014, 8:41 pm

Q fever is transmiited by breathing the contaminated gut vapors. A P1 (particulate ) mask is suprisingly effective in protecting you from that hazard. As mentioned earlier q fever can be very nasty. Not sure about pigs but plenty pf goats carry that bacteria.
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Post by Westy » 23 Dec 2014, 5:49 am

Oldbloke wrote:Q fever is transmiited by breathing the contaminated gut vapors. A P1 (particulate ) mask is suprisingly effective in protecting you from that hazard. As mentioned earlier q fever can be very nasty. Not sure about pigs but plenty pf goats carry that bacteria.

bulls**t Oldbloke!!!It is also transmitted via the blood and all bodily fluids!!It also is active for over 2 weeks outside the body and when pissed on the ground and dry's out becomes airborne in the dust... Q Fever is a bloody awful thing to catch and this I know as I've had it!!!! :x :cry: :evil: :roll:
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Re: Pigs, skin, gut and cut. Whats your method..

Post by Oldbloke » 23 Dec 2014, 7:04 pm

Westy, If u breath the gut vapours are your lungs exposed to contaminated bodily fluids? And if you prevent that exposure, would tbe risk be reduced? Yes, lm sure the other fluids are a potential risk. However my understanding is that the gut vapours is how people dressing out animals are most likely to be exposed to the bacteria. The skin, unless broken, usually provides a barrier for the other fluids.
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Post by Westy » 24 Dec 2014, 6:07 am

As your name states that is the "OLDSKOOL " train of thought, back in the Day!! but you win I'm Wrong!!!!What the hell would I know :cry: :( ;)
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Post by 1290 » 24 Dec 2014, 6:46 am

Westy wrote:As your name states that is the "OLDSKOOL " train of thought, back in the Day!! but you win I'm Wrong!!!!What the hell would I know :cry: :( ;)


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Post by Oldbloke » 24 Dec 2014, 7:25 am

Mearly offering a suggestion on how reduce the likely hood of catching q fever if they are concerned. Not telling people what to do.
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Post by petemacsydney » 24 Dec 2014, 9:31 pm

1290 wrote:
Westy wrote:As your name states that is the "OLDSKOOL " train of thought, back in the Day!! but you win I'm Wrong!!!!What the hell would I know :cry: :( ;)


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Post by Oldbloke » 24 Dec 2014, 10:35 pm

Lol. Explain it to westy, he has had it, not me. I can only take the horse to the water!
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Post by Aussier » 26 Dec 2014, 10:39 am

Oldbloke, any idea if the disposable masks lose there effectiveness over the years? Fibres break down and lose their integrity etc.?

I've got a dozen disposable P2 masks that have been in the garage for what must be 10 years.

Thoughts?
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Post by Hucka » 26 Dec 2014, 10:41 am

1290 wrote:Particulate..... for real??? It's not ebola season is it?? :lol: :lol:


I think we've circled back around to Bird flu at the moment?

Once the buzz on that dies down I'm sure we'll move on to the next "scare" again.
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Post by Oldbloke » 26 Dec 2014, 11:16 am

Aussier wrote:Oldbloke, any idea if the disposable masks lose there effectiveness over the years? Fibres break down and lose their integrity etc.?

I've got a dozen disposable P2 masks that have been in the garage for what must be 10 years.

Thoughts?


Im not sure, but if theyare still sealed in the original packageing, un damaged and look new my guess it they would be ok. Is ther a use by date? Of course ensure a good seal around the edge af the mask. If they leak it reduces the effectvness .

If you dress out a lot of game it would make sense to take some basic hygiene precautions ( gloves, p2 mask) in my view. But if you shoot 1 or 2 goats a year the risk would be much lower. In many ways its a numbers game. Looks like good info at the following link.

http://www.health.qld.gov.au/cdcg/index/qfever.asp#ip
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Re: Pigs, skin, gut and cut. Whats your method..

Post by Aussier » 29 Dec 2014, 1:58 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Im not sure, but if theyare still sealed in the original packageing, un damaged and look new my guess it they would be ok. Is ther a use by date? Of course ensure a good seal around the edge af the mask. If they leak it reduces the effectvness .


No used by date on the masks, perhaps on the cardboard of the pack but that's gone.

Kept in a sealed plastic bag and look 'as new' so probably all right.

Nothing to suggest otherwise, just thought I'd ask in case you were in the know.
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Post by Oldbloke » 29 Dec 2014, 4:47 pm

Sealed from the air certainly assists in extending the life of them. Most likely ok to use, if they look good. Can you compare them with a new identical one?
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Post by Aussier » 30 Dec 2014, 9:26 am

I could except I don't want to buy another pack to do so obviously... Been years without using these ones.

Looking at them again they look just about pristine. I'm comfortable continuing to use them I've decided.
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Post by Kelix » 30 Dec 2014, 9:30 am

For you two, I found this from 'Safe-T-Tech' who do respiratory protection gear.

Filter Life Expectancy
It is difficult to determine the exact life expectancy of a filter cartridge. This is because of a number of variable factors. These include the wearers breathing rate, the characteristics and level of contaminant, the length of time a user is exposed to a contaminant. Environmental conditions should also be taken into account such as temperature and humidity which could also affect a wearers breathing rate. Saturated or used cartridges will leak trace amounts of contaminants to the wearer which may be detected via odour, taste, and/or irritation – if a contaminant can be detected by any of these means by the user, then filter cartridges should be changed immediately.


Seems only use causes their filters to degrade, no mention of time passing doing it.
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Post by Oldbloke » 30 Dec 2014, 9:47 am

These are slightly different to a cartridge filter but the same should be true. I would use them, better than nothing. No use to you sitting in the shed.
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Re: Pigs, skin, gut and cut. Whats your method..

Post by Aussier » 31 Dec 2014, 2:54 pm

Thanks Kelix.

Yeah OB, going ahead with them.
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